Roger Mexico Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 hours ago, buncha wankas said: if HSCC are independently checking Manx Care adhere and perform the mandate, what the hell is the newly formed DHSC which costs us 10 million actually doing as the double up on Manx care senior management roles. Well quite. The actual cost of DHSC is even murkier than most government accounts, but I reckon it's only around £4 million. But, as I keep on boring everyone with repeating, it's difficult to see what it actually does. Even compared to the failing commissioning model in the UK, it does far less than commissioners there, just a few local inspections (which arguably should be outsourced to impartial off-Islanders), a bit of admin around CQC and monitoring Manx Care. If the latter turns out to be better done by a bunch of (mostly) retired locals being paid expenses, you can see why there might be tension. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: just a few local inspections (which arguably should be outsourced to impartial off-Islanders), a bit of admin around CQC and monitoring Manx Care. If the latter turns out to be better done by a bunch of (mostly) retired locals being paid expenses, you can see why there might be tension. This! With knobs on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Well quite. The actual cost of DHSC is even murkier than most government accounts, but I reckon it's only around £4 million. But, as I keep on boring everyone with repeating, it's difficult to see what it actually does. Even compared to the failing commissioning model in the UK, it does far less than commissioners there, just a few local inspections (which arguably should be outsourced to impartial off-Islanders), a bit of admin around CQC and monitoring Manx Care. If the latter turns out to be better done by a bunch of (mostly) retired locals being paid expenses, you can see why there might be tension. This is what they think they do at DHSC. https://www.gov.im/media/1378423/dhsc-department-plan-2022-23.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: This is what they think they do at DHSC. https://www.gov.im/media/1378423/dhsc-department-plan-2022-23.pdf A wonderful place to start an external and independent time and motion study on every role. Oh yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, woolley said: A wonderful place to start an external and independent time and motion study on every role. Oh yes. Across ALL of government. Dan Davies was supposed to be doing that at one stage...now look what we've got. Dan Davies and lots more government staff. He needs to go. He's a major part of the problem. The Peter principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Across ALL of government. Yes, of course. If I'm in traffic, I sometimes get to wondering what percentage of those vehicles are conveying people to an office to do the square root of bugger all useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buncha wankas Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Well quite. The actual cost of DHSC is even murkier than most government accounts, but I reckon it's only around £4 million. But, as I keep on boring everyone with repeating, it's difficult to see what it actually does. Even compared to the failing commissioning model in the UK, it does far less than commissioners there, just a few local inspections (which arguably should be outsourced to impartial off-Islanders), a bit of admin around CQC and monitoring Manx Care. If the latter turns out to be better done by a bunch of (mostly) retired locals being paid expenses, you can see why there might be tension. The silly team cost us at least 5 million plus 250,000 in other staff payouts last year so I kinda thing the DHSC costs is way up near the 10 million mark but happy to drop my estimate to 8 million. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, woolley said: Yes, of course. If I'm in traffic, I sometimes get to wondering what percentage of those vehicles are conveying people to an office to do the square root of bugger all useful. 95% of us mate. Only 5% of us add any real value to human existence...and most of those get paid SFA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: 95% of us mate. Only 5% of us add any real value to human existence...and most of those get paid SFA. 😃 Without analysing the finer points of that, maybe we should rethink our entire existence........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: He's a major part of the problem. It’s incredible to me that at one time anyone in government thought that he might possibly be the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Zandra Lesis speaks out about Abbotswoods deaths Worth a listen. It’s one hour long but she puts the responsibility for the covid deaths firmly at the feet of the DSHC. ETA around 30 mins in it starts in earnest. Listen to what she says about Magson. It’s extremely concerning. ETA 2. If you want a bare bones I sanitised version of what our bullying and controlling government are capable of then I urge you to listen. It’s actually quite horrifying while at the same time being horrifyingly believable. . ETA 3 Changed the link. Edited July 18, 2023 by Roxanne 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: https://www.bitchute.com/video/45ZyErhMuL9c/ Worth a listen. It’s one hour long but she puts the responsibility for the covid deaths firmly at the feet of the DSHC. ETA around 30 mins in it starts in earnest. Listen to what she says about Magson. It’s extremely concerning. ETA 2. If you want a bare bones I sanitised version of what our bullying and controlling government are capable of then I urge you to listen. It’s actually quite horrifying while at the same time being horrifyingly believable. . Bloody hell! Everyone should listen from at least 30 mins to the end. IMO...This will make the Ranson judgement look like a walk in the park for the govt if/when the relatives get involved. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwebs Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 What is the difference between a Narcissist, Sociopath, and psychopath? These people are very dangerous, cause immense damage, are relentless, and widely exist in positions of power and control. Look around and note who fits the profiles, the damage they do with zero accountability or consequences. Where such people exist they need to be removed. https://lauriehollmanphd.com/2020/05/18/narcissist-vs-sociopath-vs-psychopath-whats-the-difference/ https://www.verywellmind.com/the-difference-between-a-narcissist-and-a-sociopath-5181518 https://www.healthline.com/health/sociopath-vs-narcissist If this is not dealt with it grows until the system breaks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 There's been criminality here and a U.K. police force need to take a good long look at it. The families of the deceased residents need to take a class action against the DHSC. The BMA are very aware of 'anomalies' in Manx health care and should also provide professional/legal advice and support. What is alleged to have happened at Abbotswood is truly shocking and the biggest scandal in decades. I wish Zandra Lewis good health and hope she can get some measure of justice for what they've done to her, the deceased, and their families. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Roxanne said: Zandra Lesis speaks out about Abbotswoods deaths Worth a listen. It’s one hour long but she puts the responsibility for the covid deaths firmly at the feet of the DSHC. ETA around 30 mins in it starts in earnest. Listen to what she says about Magson. It’s extremely concerning. ETA 2. If you want a bare bones I sanitised version of what our bullying and controlling government are capable of then I urge you to listen. It’s actually quite horrifying while at the same time being horrifyingly believable. . ETA 3 Changed the link. There seems to be some very alarming similarities in the way in which the “Department” handled this tragic matter, the shameful manner in which Dr Ranson was treated and the clumsy debacle surrounding the manslaughter charges brought against four anaesthetists. The m.o seems to be the ready adoption of measures to intimidate and gag. it is disturbing to think that Police were used in two of these matters in the manner of a clumsily welded blunt instrument. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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