Gladys Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Not sure you’ve grasped the essence - what you need is a Henry vacuum, with a nozzle attachment… And a trip hazard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Is it against the GP's contract to offer a private service option and charge £50 per ear? No it’s an extra service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Is it against the GP's contract to offer a private service option and charge £50 per ear? Probably not, since the procedure has been removed from the NHS contract. But I’m not an expert on the Primary Care contract… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gladys said: And a trip hazard? Well, hopefully they ask you to sit still before applying the vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Blade Runner said: Move to the mainland like I did, you will be fine and more importantly your children will be fine too. The crap on the telly is isolated "sink" hospitals. If you live anywhere half decent on the mainland, you will be fine. Gods Own County is well named for a reason and Sunak lives just up the road from me. Royal Liverpool is not an isolated sink hospital & their delays in A& E are much higher than here. Waiting lists in UK are increasing every month https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/nhs-delivery-and-workforce/pressures/nhs-backlog-data-analysis You post some bollocks to justify living in UK , probably never even lived here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 £50 for 10 minutes of work. They already have the equipment and the trained staff (presumably paid for in some way or other by the taxpayer). What they need is for a ManxForum business consultant to go up there and tell them how to make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Blade Runner said: Move to the mainland like I did, you will be fine and more importantly your children will be fine too. The crap on the telly is isolated "sink" hospitals. If you live anywhere half decent on the mainland, you will be fine. Gods Own County is well named for a reason and Sunak lives just up the road from me. Sunak’s closest hospital would likely be Middlesbrough. 60% seen in A&E within the government target time. The Local Democracy Reporting Service revealed earlier this year how last December 10,981 individuals attended at the emergency department at Middlesbrough’s James Cook University Hospital in Marton Road, the highest monthly figure ever, made worse by a significant surge in flu and respiratory infection cases. There were also 159 A&E waits of more than 12 hours from the decision to admit into the hospital, while only 60.2 per cent of patients were seen within the Government’s A&E four hour wait standard. …….once again you’re spouting bollocks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 How about comparing the IoM with countries other than the UK. "In British hospitals there are only 6.6 beds per 100,000 inhabitants - in Germany, by contrast, there are 29.2 beds" "The mean waiting time for an appointment with a GP was 4.0 days (Table 2). Respondents from East Germany had to wait 6.6 days, whereas participants from West Germany waited 3.3 days. SHI insurants (4.1 days) waited only slightly longer than privately insured respondents (3.3 days)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Maybe we're going about this the wrong way... if we give the health service over to MNH they could badge it as some kind of heritage/nostalgia experience... "Remember the days when you could see a GP within 48 hours?" That kind of thing, then it would be a money pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Maybe we're going about this the wrong way... if we give the health service over to MNH they could badge it as some kind of heritage/nostalgia experience... "Remember the days when you could see a GP within 48 hours?" That kind of thing, then it would be a money pit. They could sell a dozen leeches in a jar, that sort of thing. Or a part time MNH volunteer cut off your gangrenous toe , or suck the puss out of your swollen knee, for a small donation perhaps? Everyone would be a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: They could sell a dozen leeches in a jar, that sort of thing. Or a part time MNH volunteer cut off your gangrenous toe , or suck the puss out of your swollen knee, for a small donation perhaps? Everyone would be a winner. It would also be a legitimate reason to use the NI fund to pay for MNH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Well, hopefully they ask you to sit still before applying the vacuum. Hyhaaa, you ask them to sit? You ask them to sit? That why the NHS so slow! Stand in line and go along like F1 tyre change, cut waiting list. Yo big ears, you go back of queue, back of queue! Fuyoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Kopek said: Hyhaaa, you ask them to sit? You ask them to sit? That why the NHS so slow! It’s for accuracy, really - if they’re moving around too much, it’s easy to accidentally apply the hoover to the eyeball, instead of the ear… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jarndyce said: …ie, DHSC decision. Perhaps taking these minor procedures out of the GP contract was a suggestion in the big Cost Improvement Plan. After all, £3M shortfall to claw back this year! We can't expect to afford the privilege of minor medical procedures paid for by taxes but free at the point of delivery and have the costs of another battalion of civil servants employed under Manx Care as well now....plus the costs of compensation to sidelined doctors. How many ears would that little lot paid to have syringed? Edited August 17, 2023 by Non-Believer extra bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 hours ago, 0bserver said: Remember the days when you could see a GP within 48 hours?" Remember the days when, if you didn't feel well enough to go to the surgery, the doctor would come to the house? We've had the best of times, for sure. I had to make an appointment yesterday to order my annual blood tests. The first available appointment was the first week in October. We've deffo had the best of times... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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