IOM DHSC & MANX CARE

[RonWeasley]

On 2/3/2023 at 8:00 PM, MickyL said:

Well she certainly did that! All previous experienced senior managers gone, experienced Social Workers gone! Terrible for the children and families on the Island.

I doubt it was through their own choice. The question is was she pushed or did she fall, perhaps it was another golden hand shake for being crap at her job. Workers had been raising concerns for months but nothing done, HR complicit in all of the failings. Bring back previous Social Workers and Managers to sort this s**t show out! 

Do you know what happened in the inspection? I assume it has been completed now? In education we have not heard any updates. 

[MickyL]

6 hours ago, RonWeasley said:

Do you know what happened in the inspection? I assume it has been completed now? In education we have not heard any updates. 
 

 Last I heard board in July (I think) said gone back for some accuracy points. I thought they were expecting to have it end of Aug but I believe on Manx radio it was said wouldn’t be available until end Oct. Mr Hooper said on the radio (Mannin Line) last week that it was not yet available to the public and that it didn’t tell them anything they didn’t know. Hope that helps 

[MickyL]

Perhaps with HSCOB now being up and running some of Manx Cares failing will be raised and appropriate action taken 

[MickyL]

Health and Social Care Ombudsman

We were set up as the Health and Social Care Ombudsman (HSCOB) as a service for complaints that have not been resolved by Manx Care or a “service provider” who delivers health and social care services commissioned by Manx Care.

We share findings from our investigations to help drive improvements in health and social care services provided on the Isle of Man and complaint handling.

Our role

We combine a statutory role as provided for in the new set of complaints Regulations set up under an amendment to the Manx Care Act 2021. The Manx Care (Amendment) Act 2022, permitted changes to several health and social care acts which provided the vires to make the Complaints Regulations, including the constitution of the HSCOB. All of the relevant pieces of legislation can be found on our webpage.

We are not part of government or Manx Care on the Isle of Man. We are neither a regulator nor a consumer champion.

[John Wright]

7 hours ago, MickyL said:

Perhaps with HSCOB now being up and running some of Manx Cares failing will be raised and appropriate action taken 

Here is your answer.

7 hours ago, MickyL said:

We are not part of government or Manx Care on the Isle of Man. We are neither a regulator nor a consumer champion.

The service will deal with specific complaints. It can make observations, highlight failings, suggest improvements.

[2112]

Tomorrow’s (Thursday 14/9) is the Nurses Strike Day, and it’s down to the politicos to squabble, handwringing and the blame game. There’s money but they want more, and better working conditions, which is  totally understandable. Unfortunately while money is very tight, it’s like that for everybody, more are trying to survive. Allinson needs to focus on priorities within Treasury, free up funding, example, kick to Peggy project into the next decade, and other pointless and nice to have schemes.
 

Sarah Maltby Douglas South MHK has been parroting about lack of money and is towing the treasury line, so it must be alright. Now they really need to be brutal and scrap unessential capital projects, even if it causes a stink, and review nice to have schemes. Every time there is a strike, there is less salary being paid out to nurses, but less tax and NI for the island, coupled with additional burdens placed on the healthcare users - no clinics or operations mean longer waiting times. 

[WTF]

1 hour ago, 2112 said:

Every time there is a strike, there is less salary being paid out to nurses, but less tax and NI for the island.

LOL  , you fail to understand that a nurses entire pay packet comes from government coffers ,  so the government is not going to be holding on to part of the pay packet in the guise of tax and NI  , it's keeping the lot !  so from a government coffers point of view it is actually better to not have to pay them in the first place.

[code99]

1 hour ago, 2112 said:

Tomorrow’s (Thursday 14/9) is the Nurses Strike Day, and it’s down to the politicos to squabble, handwringing and the blame game. There’s money but they want more, and better working conditions, which is  totally understandable. Unfortunately while money is very tight, it’s like that for everybody, more are trying to survive. Allinson needs to focus on priorities within Treasury, free up funding, example, kick to Peggy project into the next decade, and other pointless and nice to have schemes.
 

Sarah Maltby Douglas South MHK has been parroting about lack of money and is towing the treasury line, so it must be alright. Now they really need to be brutal and scrap unessential capital projects, even if it causes a stink, and review nice to have schemes. Every time there is a strike, there is less salary being paid out to nurses, but less tax and NI for the island, coupled with additional burdens placed on the healthcare users - no clinics or operations mean longer waiting times. 

There is also the ‘old-fashioned’ but vital question of fairness. Over the years, successive IOM governments have recklessly trashed taxpayers’ money on vanity projects and plain incompetence. Now, they are continuing that tradition and at the same time want to recoup these cumulative financial losses by cutting frontline public services such as health, social care and education. An example of ‘nonsense spending’ is Manx Care’s desire to appoint ever more desk jockeys (with two Porsches), but does not have enough money to pay nurses, ENT and orthopaedic specialists, etc.

Surely, what the public should be demanding from our politicians, including Sarah Maltby, to stop talking in pointless generalities and to start owning up to their collective past and present mistakes and, most of all, to offer up some practical solutions. I concede that some of the calamities are now legacy issues, but the IOM’s incumbent politicians should have taken these issues into account when they put themselves forward as people who would ‘tirelessly’ serve the public interest.

I would welcome politicians taking pay cuts to their salaries and also to the salaries of the IOM senior civil servants before there are any cuts to NHS funding. The DOI and DfE leadership would be at the top of my list.    

Edited September 13, 2023 by code99
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[2112]

16 minutes ago, code99 said:

There is also the ‘old-fashioned’ but vital question of fairness. Over the years, successive IOM governments have recklessly trashed taxpayers’ money on vanity projects and plain incompetence. Now, they are continuing that tradition and at the same time want to recoup these cumulative financial losses by cutting frontline public services such as health, social care and education. An example of ‘nonsense spending’ is Manx Care’s desire to appoint ever more desk jockeys (with two Porsches), but does not have enough money to pay nurses, ENT and orthopaedic specialists, etc.

Surely, what the public should be demanding from our politicians, including Sarah Maltby, to stop talking in pointless generalities and to start owning up to their collective past and present mistakes and, most of all, to offer up some practical solutions. I concede that some of the calamities are now legacy issues, but the IOM’s incumbent politicians should have taken these issues into account when they put themselves forward as people who would ‘tirelessly’ serve the public interest.

I would welcome politicians taking pay cuts to their salaries and also to the salaries of the IOM senior civil servants before there are any cuts to NHS funding. The DOI and DfE leadership would be at the top of my list.    

I’m glad you mention legacy issues, as Sarah Maltby’s Father ex Minister David Cretney MHK time in office and also in previous administrations as a COMIN member, was actively involved in decisions and spending on projects which impact heavily today. Sadly no acknowledgment of this from Ms Maltby. 

[Gladys]

30 minutes ago, 2112 said:

I’m glad you mention legacy issues, as Sarah Maltby’s Father ex Minister David Cretney MHK time in office and also in previous administrations as a COMIN member, was actively involved in decisions and spending on projects which impact heavily today. Sadly no acknowledgment of this from Ms Maltby. 

Whilst I see your point, what would you expect from her?   It seems a pointless sins of the father type argument.  Agree that the current MHKs need to acknowledge that decisions in the past still impact today, but does it get us any further forward? 

What would be more reassuring would be clear steps that demonstrate that lessons have indeed been learnt and that there is a focus on value for money in all areas of government, particularly in the main frontline services, health  education, social care etc. 

[2112]

1 minute ago, Gladys said:

Whilst I see your point, what would you expect from her?   It seems a pointless sins of the father type argument.  Agree that the current MHKs need to acknowledge that decisions in the past still impact today, but does it get us any further forward? 

What would be more reassuring would be clear steps that demonstrate that lessons have indeed been learnt and that there is a focus on value for money in all areas of government, particularly in the main frontline services, health  education, social care etc. 

I accept some of your points. I would also say that the time for debates are long gone, unpopular and strong medicine by all sectors is needed, perhaps those who have the broadest shoulders, as opposed to those on the lowest incomes. 

[2112]

Manx Care appealing to the public …………. yet again over attending A&E - they can’t cope and are experiencing longer than usual waiting times. Only two days ago they were dick waving at patients in A&E being treated quicker than UK Hospitals. 

[Andy Onchan]

3 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Manx Care appealing to the public …………. yet again over attending A&E - they can’t cope and are experiencing longer than usual waiting times. Only two days ago they were dick waving at patients in A&E being treated quicker than UK Hospitals. 

Agreed. The mixed messaging coming out of MC leaves a lot to be desired.

[Non-Believer]

6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Agreed. The mixed messaging coming out of MC leaves a lot to be desired.

Play up and take credit for the good news, blame the public for the bad news. Same old same old and a sure sign of governmental winging it for the most part.

[2112]

4 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Play up and take credit for the good news, blame the public for the bad news. Same old same old and a sure sign of governmental winging it for the most part.

No joined up and cohesive working and thinking.