Dr. Grumpy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 1/2/2024 at 4:41 PM, Moghrey Mie said: Seems like a sensible way to save money. Why pay for 'on-call' doctor if they are rarely needed? By this logic, shall we do away with the Fire Services too? 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 32 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said: By this logic, shall we do away with the Fire Services too? It's not quite the same as there is still dialling 999 or going to the Emergency Department at the Hospital. But then they shouldn't get all uppity about people dialling 999 for 'trivial' reasons or turning up at ED with something they don't think is important enough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 ....but Roger, you're forgetting that it is 2020 somthing, the 'entitled' think that it is their God Given Right to go to A & E with a cut finger that a bit of kitchen roll and selotape could not fix!!! If you call the Police or Fire service for a frivolous reason, you will be called out for thius, do the NHS call you out for wasting their time??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kopek said: you're forgetting that it is 2020 somthing, the 'entitled' think that it is their God Given Right to go to A & E with a cut finger that a bit of kitchen roll and selotape could not fix!!! If you call the Police or Fire service for a frivolous reason, you will be called out for thius, do the NHS call you out for wasting their time??? Maybe not - but only because of confidentiality, I suspect. Maybe they’ll re-start discussions about “charging at the door” to get into ED, to cut out the time-wasters- just at the same time as they shut down MEDS… Edited January 4 by Jarndyce Clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 17 hours ago, cissolt said: Going back to the meds issue. This interview raises some interesting points. https://www.manxradio.com/podcasts/manx-newscast/episode/whats-happening-to-meds/?fbclid=IwAR1h8roYmxkqDPoiwivrt91LTpxYTBDh-F9y4XvXR3MkrIidnAH_S5eZtCY The payrise awarded last year wasn't offered to the MEDs GPs, this was awarded in December but now they can't afford to run the MEDs service fully for the rest of this financial year. Nothing to do with low volumes of patients. Paying a locum doctor on the off-chance that one or two patients will turn up at MEDS in the early hours of the morning doesn't seem like a good way to spend money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 15 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: Paying a locum doctor on the off-chance that one or two patients will turn up at MEDS in the early hours of the morning doesn't seem like a good way to spend money. It is essentially to cater for the lack of GP appointments for some, and acts as a triage type service for people not needed A&E but who can't be see by a doctor for two weeks+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentience Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 6 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: Paying a locum doctor on the off-chance that one or two patients will turn up at MEDS in the early hours of the morning doesn't seem like a good way to spend money. If it saves a life, it certainly is. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Sentience said: If it saves a life, it certainly is. It has certainly saved a few judging by the comments online. DHSS knew about this in December and did and said nothing. The department members don't even talk to each other! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 12 hours ago, cissolt said: It has certainly saved a few judging by the comments online. DHSS knew about this in December and did and said nothing. The department members don't even talk to each other! they are never at meetings ,or take time to speak to anybody too many zoom meetings ,at least in the old days the politicians walked around the place and spoke to the doctors staff and patients , one famous health minister even turned out lights to save money , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said: Paying a locum doctor on the off-chance that one or two patients will turn up at MEDS in the early hours of the morning doesn't seem like a good way to spend money. It feels like a better way than the rest these muppets waste ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 https://covidreview.im/ Brunner Covid Report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 43 minutes ago, Two-lane said: https://covidreview.im/ Brunner Covid Report At first glance it appears that our covid response was masterminded by a DJ, a banker and a woman with a degree in music who didn't seem to listen to medical advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, cissolt said: At first glance it appears that our covid response was masterminded by a DJ, a banker and a woman with a degree in music who didn't seem to listen to medical advice. It also says our response was reasonable, had fairly low death rates etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 31 minutes ago, Banker said: It also says our response was reasonable, had fairly low death rates etc. 2,000 pages is too much to read in one go, but I made a search for interesting words: "The same people attended many different groups. .... That meant that individuals were spending hours of each day in meetings, and was not an effective use of the command structure." "While meeting minutes are available for NSG, CoMin and some Gold meetings, there was no decision log or action tracker. .... Some attendees of Gold meetings said they could not recall any sight of minutes. By 2021, there were no minutes - the Review has some notes of meetings that are haphazard, wrongly dated and incomplete." So there were people racing up and down corridors from meeting to meeting, all wanting to be present at every meeting. No one tracking what was going on. It takes a £1.5 million report to tell these people they need to keep a record of what they are doing. That's basic stuff. There will be a "lessons will be learned", but you cannot teach common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Abbotswood seems to have featured quite heavily. Requests for PPE were refused by DHSS. Patient with covid discharged from nobles into care home without testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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