cissolt Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Rob was agreived that the decision to appeal was made without his consent, which is pretty telling when it comes to execution of power in government. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 A sorry saga all ends up, symptomatic of much here where one bad decision follows another, much of the time to save face ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Has anyone noticed the similarities of the post office horizon case to the Ranson affair. (Postoffice management team) "We are in the wrong". I know, Just keep chucking money and lawyers at it we'll break em. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The local newspapers website informs us that the new Summerhill View (ex Glenside), is nearly completed and will soon be ready for handover. However the same article says, there is doubt as to whether Manx Care/DHSC are going to operate it, and there is a suggestion that a third party manages it. Will this save the taxpayers any money? Remember Salisbury Street Nursing Home which was a private venture, until IOMG decided it must buy it. Something isn’t adding up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I thought the Government built Salisbury Street with the idea of it being privately run with 50% occupancy to be available for government placings. May be wrong it is a while ago and u turns may have been made. The present staff at RNB are under the impression that they are moving up to Summer Hill view in a staggered move, half as soon as it is completed with 50% of residents and then some months later the second batch. There is also a special section for dementia patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistercee Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The photo of Summerhill View on the Isle of Man Newspapers website is very interesting: New Douglas residential care home and day centre nears completion | iomtoday.co.im It looks like another Government triumph of form over function. The stone cladding alone must have cost a fortune and why all the chimneys. And not a sign of a solar panel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 27 minutes ago, Mistercee said: The photo of Summerhill View on the Isle of Man Newspapers website is very interesting: New Douglas residential care home and day centre nears completion | iomtoday.co.im It looks like another Government triumph of form over function. The stone cladding alone must have cost a fortune and why all the chimneys. And not a sign of a solar panel! the solar panels are in the chimneys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Mistercee said: The photo of Summerhill View on the Isle of Man Newspapers website is very interesting: New Douglas residential care home and day centre nears completion | iomtoday.co.im It looks like another Government triumph of form over function. The stone cladding alone must have cost a fortune and why all the chimneys. And not a sign of a solar panel! Ideal place to have ground source heat pump too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The Summerhill Nursing Home is getting an airing in the local media. However, DHSC/Manxcare are saying that the home will likely be run by an independent provider, as Manxcare/DHSC haven’t got the staff to operate. Did manpower ever feature in the discussion when debating this new development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, 2112 said: The Summerhill Nursing Home is getting an airing in the local media. However, DHSC/Manxcare are saying that the home will likely be run by an independent provider, as Manxcare/DHSC haven’t got the staff to operate. Did manpower ever feature in the discussion when debating this new development? That’s normal isn’t it? One in Salisbury street is similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 It's the arms length scenario, once some one comes with a fuckwit idea where they can absolve themselves from any responcibility over running or being held accountable. All started with manx care next airport and now new carehome. We all seen how they covered themselves with glory with the Salisbury care plan, now the bunch of fuckwits think this is the way to go. Most will not have to care if it is a success or not as it is likely that they may be a large house clearance due in the not to distant future(2 years) So that just leaves you and me the downtrodden manx tax payers to pick up the pieces and no doubt the eye watering bill. Also if you can not run one of theses homes and make money(aprox £4,400 per inmate per month 60 beds) it would be the manx government. No doubt some one will get the best rent deal everseen on a nursing home and not even have to pay upkeep knowing the brains of the great manx civil service. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Dirty Buggane said: It's the arms length scenario, once some one comes with a fuckwit idea where they can absolve themselves from any responcibility over running or being held accountable. All started with manx care next airport and now new carehome. We all seen how they covered themselves with glory with the Salisbury care plan, now the bunch of fuckwits think this is the way to go. Most will not have to care if it is a success or not as it is likely that they may be a large house clearance due in the not to distant future(2 years) So that just leaves you and me the downtrodden manx tax payers to pick up the pieces and no doubt the eye watering bill. Also if you can not run one of theses homes and make money(aprox £4,400 per inmate per month 60 beds) it would be the manx government. No doubt some one will get the best rent deal everseen on a nursing home and not even have to pay upkeep knowing the brains of the great manx civil service. Salisbury Nursing Home was back in 2016. That's before Manx Care was created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It's really depressing to read that as a new facility is being made ready for use they are thinking how it will be run. 😢 also the casual way in which can't cope states, at this juncture, I need more money to run it. Where is the forward planning. It's mad! Two likely outcomes. It stands empty, the service provider provides value for money compared to the layers of DHSC and MC management can't cope is thinking of, but doesn't provide value for money for the taxpayer in relative terms. Plus it'll now need a team of regulators. Bonkers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, english zloty said: It's really depressing to read that as a new facility is being made ready for use they are thinking how it will be run. 😢 also the casual way in which can't cope states, at this juncture, I need more money to run it. Where is the forward planning. It's mad! Two likely outcomes. It stands empty, the service provider provides value for money compared to the layers of DHSC and MC management can't cope is thinking of, but doesn't provide value for money for the taxpayer in relative terms. Plus it'll now need a team of regulators. Bonkers. It’s not boding well. All I think if a third party operator comes in, is the importing of cheap minimum wage labour from overseas, or corners being cut, or a blind eye being turned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2024 at 12:12 PM, 2112 said: The Summerhill Nursing Home is getting an airing in the local media. However, DHSC/Manxcare are saying that the home will likely be run by an independent provider, as Manxcare/DHSC haven’t got the staff to operate. Did manpower ever feature in the discussion when debating this new development? Manx Care have learnt from DHSC. Manx Care are run at arms length from DHSC. Summerhill Nursing Home will be run at arms length from Manx Care! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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