dreamon Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tribunal-files-could-be-referred-to-police-after-forgery-allegations/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, dreamon said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tribunal-files-could-be-referred-to-police-after-forgery-allegations/ Ham's paragraph was lifted from that report which does not say what Offshoremanxman said. Nit picky, I grant you, but he has quoted something which wasn't reported, even if it amounts to the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: And you say you aren’t nit picking. Yes, I was, but you said they said something that clearly wasn't reported in the MR piece. I asked for a link in case there was more detail on the disputed documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buncha wankas Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Gladys said: Do you have a link for that? It is clearly implied in the news article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, buncha wankas said: It is clearly implied in the news article. It was clearly implied in Ham's quoted paragraph too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Some very interesting comments from Chris roberthshaw and Ralph peake. Any ideas which tribunal Mr Peake is referring to? Sounds dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, cissolt said: Some very interesting comments from Chris roberthshaw and Ralph peake. Any ideas which tribunal Mr Peake is referring to? Sounds dreadful 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, cissolt said: In my opinion it is well worth making the effort to listen to the entire 25 minutes of this broadcast. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, cissolt said: Tinwell v DHSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 +1. No punches being pulled there, absolutely appalling. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 PS - re. Tinwell, which is the other recent tribunal that I think Peake is referring to, I don't think the judgement has been published yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said: PS - re. Tinwell, which is the other recent tribunal that I think Peake is referring to, I don't think the judgement has been published yet. There won't be judgment published because there wasn't a judgment. We know from an FoI request last October which I mercifully copied onto here[1] about costs incurred and contains the following: Your Question – Part 2: The case has disappeared off the employment tribunal listings. I ask the Attorney Generals Chambers has the case with Dr Tinwell been settled out of court. In respect of this I do not ask for the settlement figures just confirmation that the case has been settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. As it is tax payers money openness and transparency should rightfully be shown, so I can see no reason for not disclosing what has been asked for Our Response – Part 2: For this part of your question, the Attorney General’s Chambers can confirm that prior to the proceedings before the Tribunal being determined, the parties disposed of matters relating to the dispute on what they both agreed were strictly confidential terms. [1] Mercifully not just because of the the usual servlet problem which makes linking impossible, but because you can't actually access any FoI replies at the moment for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 They allude very clearly to the culture inside Government where the power of the executive is dominant. The executive determines how things are done, what is done and how outcomes are presented. When things do go wrong, or when decisions that are made which have negative outcomes, individuals in senior positions are able to manipulate the truth to suit their own ends, without any effective system of checks or investigation. I have seen this first hand and the organised deceit that goes with it. Even more depressingly, I see no prospect of this changing whilst the existing political organisation and structure within Tynwald persists. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Call Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, cissolt said: WTF! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: There won't be judgment published because there wasn't a judgment. Nevertheless, there are bits and pieces around (although I assume people who are interested have already found them): http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=49635&headline=Tribunal+hears+accusations+of+bullying+in+health+department§ionIs=News&searchyear=2019 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=56552&headline=Deemster rejects DHSC's appeal§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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