Albert Tatlock Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, WTF said: going by wrightys doom and gloom TT scenario they should lose a fortune They never lose...someone else pays out and they just keep the commission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 there is a document in place between the isle of man health services and the UK health service its called the reciprocal health agreement basically it means there is no charge for emergency or health treatment in either jurisdiction some years ago a short sighted health minister tried to get rid of it , but thanks to Andy Burnham UK health minister and great friend to the Isle of Man and a few rebellious MHK's and MLC's the decision was never made what a mess we would be in now if that were allowed to happen , costs for repatriation are different and some patients not being UK nationals can be asked to meet the cost of getting back home foreign nationals falling outside the scheme are expected to meet their full accident and health costs while visiting the isle of Man , there should be a credit / Debit card reader in A and E in Nobles and non UK or isle of Man should have to swipe their card when they arrive and if you have to pay for treatment its easily deducted , thats what happens when I travel in Europe and beyond , and then you can claim the charge back on your medical or accident insurance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 41 minutes ago, Two-lane said: https://www.gov.im/healthinsuranceforvisitors "medical treatment which is needed by a resident of England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Island whilst visiting the Island is provided by the IOM NHS on the same basis as services provided to local residents" Foreigners visiting will no doubt have health insurance. UK visitors do not need it. The only thing that is missing is repatriation. Repatriation from Tierra del Fuego would cost a bit, but getting back to England just means staggering down to Douglas and getting on the boat. Can't walk? Get a mate with a van and stick you in the back. You missed this bit out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 42 minutes ago, Omobono said: there is a document in place between the isle of man health services and the UK health service its called the reciprocal health agreement basically it means there is no charge for emergency or health treatment in either jurisdiction some years ago a short sighted health minister tried to get rid of it , but thanks to Andy Burnham UK health minister and great friend to the Isle of Man and a few rebellious MHK's and MLC's the decision was never made what a mess we would be in now if that were allowed to happen , costs for repatriation are different and some patients not being UK nationals can be asked to meet the cost of getting back home foreign nationals falling outside the scheme are expected to meet their full accident and health costs while visiting the isle of Man , there should be a credit / Debit card reader in A and E in Nobles and non UK or isle of Man should have to swipe their card when they arrive and if you have to pay for treatment its easily deducted , thats what happens when I travel in Europe and beyond , and then you can claim the charge back on your medical or accident insurance "Isle of Man woman hit with £24,000 bill for UK NHS care" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-58462421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Omobono said: ... costs for repatriation are different and some patients not being UK nationals can be asked to meet the cost of getting back home... Are you sure of that? I thought UK residents were subject to paying repatriation costs from the IoM too? I thought the whole point was that many UK residents visiting the island may not be aware that only emergency NHS treatment is covered, and that any ongoing care and/or repatriation costs that they might incur they will be liable to pay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 7 hours ago, WTF said: if i was living in the british isles and travelled to another part of the british isles for a holiday i wouldn't think i needed to take out travel insurance to cover medical bills. You should.. Not everything is covered even if you are an IOM resident visiting the UK.. And even if you have some form of insurance from a bank account etc it's worth checking the fine print.. Many don't cover day trips and some only cover you if you have pre booked accommodation ..So you are not covered if you are staying with family in the UK . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 11 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: "Isle of Man woman hit with £24,000 bill for UK NHS care" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-58462421 if she had been discharged and readmitted why didn't the 3 months clock start again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 hours ago, WTF said: if she had been discharged and readmitted why didn't the 3 months clock start again ? 3 ( it’s changed to 6 now ) months is based on presence, with day of arrival counting as day 1, it’s not based on length of treatment/hospitalisation. PS it doesn’t apply to day trippers. You’ve got to be here ( or there ) 24 hours before it kicks in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 There is a good news story to be told about the Health Service today, in terms of a reduction in waiting times for operations. Amazingly, Lawrie Hooper has decided that the Health Minister has something to do with it. When things go wrong or questions are asked, it always seems to be outside of his remit 🤷🏼 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 2 minutes ago, joebean said: Amazingly, Lawrie Hooper has decided that the Health Minister has something to do with it. That’s odd - I thought that Manx Care were entirely responsible for operational matters and the Minister was at “arms length”…🤔 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Is that a surprise? Saw his Tweet (or is it X) on the legal basis for refusing road access to the Roundhouse. Unsurprisingly arrogant, condescending and dismissive. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, joebean said: There is a good news story to be told about the Health Service today, in terms of a reduction in waiting times for operations. Amazingly, Lawrie Hooper has decided that the Health Minister has something to do with it. When things go wrong or questions are asked, it always seems to be outside of his remit 🤷🏼 Absolute bollocks, I'll tell you how they reduce waiting lists, I was referred to the Hospital by a medical professional with the remit to so do. I waited five months for the appointment and then received a letter saying I didn't need to be seen and to go back to the person who referred me if I had any problems ! Hooper is a twat ! Edited June 5 by asitis 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 43 minutes ago, Gladys said: “arrogant, condescending and dismissive” I wonder if this will be the strapline on his election publicity material - maybe it works in Ramsey? Dunno… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 17 minutes ago, asitis said: Hooper is a twat ! That’s a T-shirt slogan right there - great marketing opportunity for one of the forum’s entrepreneurs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Jarndyce said: - I thought that Manx Care were entirely responsible for operational matters and the Minister was at “arms length But DHSC sets the targets and provides the funds it costs to meet the budgeted cost of the targets. So DHSC set waiting list reduction targets, provided the additional funding, and Manx Care, operationally, achieved the reductions within budget. That’s a win for both. Only if Manx Care don’t meet the targets, or go over budget, is MC to blame, but, DHSC, because it’s not operationally responsible, isn’t. Win Win for Hooperman. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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