wrighty Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Banker said: Cuts for healthcare or charging: which one do public prefer? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/cannan-healthcare-funding-can-only-match-what-economy-can-afford/ Not my line, stolen from the BMJ - "For years everyone's been promised an all you can eat buffet of lobster and caviar. Unfortunately we're only funded to provide supermarket own brand beans and sliced white bread" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Are there any comparative figures? Which countries have a better health care system, and what is the total cost to run the system, and what does an individual pay - either by tax or directly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 10 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Are there any comparative figures? Which countries have a better health care system, and what is the total cost to run the system, and what does an individual pay - either by tax or directly? Probably available via Google but eg Nordic countries pay very high taxes but healthcare, pensions etc top class with quick access for operations etc. SNP have promised more funds for healthcare c£1bn but taxes will go up to fund, income tax I think 48% over £75k mentioned. So basically pay more in taxes or charges or have same services with lower taxes & free . No countries can finance increased demands without having higher taxes or private insurance like USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 19 minutes ago, Banker said: eg Nordic countries pay very high taxes It is important to look at the standard of living, rather than just the tax rate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, Banker said: Cuts for healthcare or charging: which one do public prefer? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/cannan-healthcare-funding-can-only-match-what-economy-can-afford/ If it wasn't for these idiots the economy could afford much better healthcare ! If you needed to see a bureaucrat for health you'd be knee deep in them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Julie Edge made some interesting comments in Tynwald yesterday about the recent changes at the top of manxcare and alluded to some murkiness involved. Any idea who she was referring to? I got the impression she was talking about the medical director who has been poking round in the UK for years while we pay someone else do to his work 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, cissolt said: Julie Edge made some interesting comments in Tynwald yesterday about the recent changes at the top of manxcare and alluded to some murkiness involved. Any idea who she was referring to? I got the impression she was talking about the medical director who has been poking round in the UK for years while we pay someone else do to his work Hasn't he left ?.. I heard that he has either left or is leaving soon .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, mad_manx said: Hasn't he left ?.. I heard that he has either left or is leaving soon .. Apparently not. I'll try and find the audio from Julie Edge. Seems to be lots of people leaving the upper echelons of manx care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, cissolt said: Apparently not. I'll try and find the audio from Julie Edge. Seems to be lots of people leaving the upper echelons of manx care I am sure wrighty will be able to confirm this . I think someone had posted this on this thread as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, cissolt said: Apparently not. I'll try and find the audio from Julie Edge. Seems to be lots of people leaving the upper echelons of manx care Here you go: https://tynwald.scorchnetwork.com/?file=/business/listen/AgainFiles/O-202401-1446a.mp3 There seem to be a lot going and no one permanently appointed in their place. Hooper was snooty and snide even by his standards and demanded that no one ever be able to discuss anything about public servants ever, no matter how vaguely and Skelly was of course happy to agree. But the most shocking thing was that Smith asked a (supplementary) question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Here you go: https://tynwald.scorchnetwork.com/?file=/business/listen/AgainFiles/O-202401-1446a.mp3 There seem to be a lot going and no one permanently appointed in their place. Hooper was snooty and snide even by his standards and demanded that no one ever be able to discuss anything about public servants ever, no matter how vaguely and Skelly was of course happy to agree. But the most shocking thing was that Smith asked a (supplementary) question. Wow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 8 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Here you go: https://tynwald.scorchnetwork.com/?file=/business/listen/AgainFiles/O-202401-1446a.mp3 There seem to be a lot going and no one permanently appointed in their place. Hooper was snooty and snide even by his standards and demanded that no one ever be able to discuss anything about public servants ever, no matter how vaguely and Skelly was of course happy to agree. But the most shocking thing was that Smith asked a (supplementary) question. OK. So Dr Andol is leaving at the end of the month . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 18 hours ago, wrighty said: Not my line, stolen from the BMJ - "For years everyone's been promised an all you can eat buffet of lobster and caviar. Unfortunately we're only funded to provide supermarket own brand beans and sliced white bread" I have to say you all do a good job of hiding it! I’ve had a couple of appointments in the past month (for various children - mine, not just ones I grabbed off the street) and the service has been outstanding. Nobles, Kensington Group Practice and West View dentists, highly commendable NHS (or part NHS in the case of the dentist but they’re still bloody good!) operations. We are very lucky and yeah yeah you hear the horror stories, but you get that with mechanics too - all health care workers are is fancy mechanics and we are poorly made cars. Have a great day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 16 hours ago, cissolt said: Julie Edge made some interesting comments in Tynwald yesterday about the recent changes at the top of manxcare and alluded to some murkiness involved. Any idea who she was referring to? I got the impression she was talking about the medical director who has been poking round in the UK for years while we pay someone else do to his work Didn't it refer to an earlier question on how many medical directors are on Manx Care payroll, where Hooper stated that there was only one, when it appears he has mislead Tynwald as there were two. Edited June 20 by Holte End 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Holte End said: Didn't it refer to an earlier question on how many medical directors are on Manx Care payroll, where Hooper stated that there was only one, when it appears he has mislead Tynwald as there were two. Yes, and he's technically correct. We are paying for the MD to work in the UK whilst also paying Marina Hudson to act up as medical director. He was hiding behind 'substantive' and claiming it was the questions fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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