Jarndyce Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: So what is the cost of those vaccines? I don’t know - but someone on here will have paid for them, so hopefully they’ll be along… Have you tried googling them? eta: cursory glance at the internet suggests more than £200 for the four vaccines mentioned in the release - that may not include a charge by the GP for administration as a private patient. Edited September 3 by Jarndyce eta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 The NPM this morning is reporting on a petition calling for the resignation of Manx Care CEO Can’t Cope. So far, 100 people have signed the petition. In the grand scheme of things, if the petition were to prove successful, and the CEO is forced out, how much will it cost the taxpayers? Who would want to replace her in such a poisoned chalice role? A former Manx Care employee is calling for the health body’s contract to be ‘looked at’ saying ‘failings’ need to be addressed to ensure better patient care. Kevin Oliphant-Smith has started the ‘Save Our Health Services’ Facebook page and a petition ‘demanding’ the resignation of the chief executive. It’s attracted close to 100 signatures. Mr Oliphant-Smith told Manx Radio he wanted to voice his concerns after speaking to patients and staff at Noble’s Hospital. He’s also calling for government to 'look at the Manx Care contract again' and says he was inspired to take action after Teresa Cope appeared on Mannin Line earlier this year: Manx Radio invited Manx Care to respond. A spokesperson said: "Over the last three years the board of Manx Care has sought to be as open and transparent as possible about the challenges we face, our successes, and the continuing issues that mean we are not yet able to deliver the best small Island integrated health and social care system in the world which is our committed aspiration. "Manx Care’s CEO and chair appeared before the Public Accounts Committee in June 2024 to give an account of Manx Care’s position to date, the condition of the health and social care system we inherited, the challenges we faced as well as our efforts and achievements. “In addition in February the board met with the Council of Ministers to discuss the financial challenges across the Isle of Man including those in health and social care. "We are proud of our achievements and aware of the work that still needs to be done. “We do not get everything right and we do not have control over all aspects of our work which is challenging for us. “We have strong relationships with the Department of Health and Social Care and value its support and challenge to enable us to improve. "We have a strong and robust leadership team; our non-executives have deep experience in health, social care, business and the Isle of Man, as do our executive team who continue to go above and beyond in their roles every day." Was Mr Oliphant-Smith a top well respected Manx Care civil servant with years of experience within the Manx Healthcare profession? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 If the problems are endemic, surely, the petition should also be calling for Hooper’s resignation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 51 minutes ago, 2112 said: The NPM this morning is reporting on a petition calling for the resignation of Manx Care CEO Can’t Cope. So far, 100 people have signed the petition. In the grand scheme of things, if the petition were to prove successful, and the CEO is forced out, how much will it cost the taxpayers? Who would want to replace her in such a poisoned chalice role? A former Manx Care employee is calling for the health body’s contract to be ‘looked at’ saying ‘failings’ need to be addressed to ensure better patient care. Kevin Oliphant-Smith has started the ‘Save Our Health Services’ Facebook page and a petition ‘demanding’ the resignation of the chief executive. It’s attracted close to 100 signatures. Mr Oliphant-Smith told Manx Radio he wanted to voice his concerns after speaking to patients and staff at Noble’s Hospital. He’s also calling for government to 'look at the Manx Care contract again' and says he was inspired to take action after Teresa Cope appeared on Mannin Line earlier this year: Manx Radio invited Manx Care to respond. A spokesperson said: "Over the last three years the board of Manx Care has sought to be as open and transparent as possible about the challenges we face, our successes, and the continuing issues that mean we are not yet able to deliver the best small Island integrated health and social care system in the world which is our committed aspiration. "Manx Care’s CEO and chair appeared before the Public Accounts Committee in June 2024 to give an account of Manx Care’s position to date, the condition of the health and social care system we inherited, the challenges we faced as well as our efforts and achievements. “In addition in February the board met with the Council of Ministers to discuss the financial challenges across the Isle of Man including those in health and social care. "We are proud of our achievements and aware of the work that still needs to be done. “We do not get everything right and we do not have control over all aspects of our work which is challenging for us. “We have strong relationships with the Department of Health and Social Care and value its support and challenge to enable us to improve. "We have a strong and robust leadership team; our non-executives have deep experience in health, social care, business and the Isle of Man, as do our executive team who continue to go above and beyond in their roles every day." Was Mr Oliphant-Smith a top well respected Manx Care civil servant with years of experience within the Manx Healthcare profession? Oliphant-smith is a well known idiot and serial election candidate! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 33 minutes ago, code99 said: If the problems are endemic, surely, the petition should also be calling for Hooper’s resignation? Well, exactly: Cope’s not really the problem. Michael report, DHSC/MC split, Tynwald letting it go through on the nod without considering all the problems, financial and otherwise…but you’ve heard all this before. Binning Cope won’t fix the fundamental structural problems. Edited September 4 by Jarndyce Typo 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Well, exactly: Cope’s not really the problem. Michael report, DHSC/MC split, Tynwald letting it go through on the nod without considering all the problems, financial and otherwise…but you’ve heard all this before. Binning Cope won’t fix the fundamental structural problems. The main issue is that Tynwald accepted the Michael report but the suggested funding formula was not adopted by Treasury so it’s been underfunded from the outset resulting in the yearly overspend and cuts in some services. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 11 minutes ago, Banker said: Oliphant-smith is a well known idiot and serial election candidate! This petition has been doing the rounds on Facebook for the last couple of weeks, and so far ………. nearly 100 signatures ……….. it’s hardly inspiring people. Maybe Mr Oliphant-Smith will be announcing his candidacy for one of the Douglas constituencies in two years time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Banker said: Oliphant-smith is a well known idiot and serial election candidate! Ex DOI Ex DHSC Ex DOI. Ex DEFA Ex Manx Care employee Twice failed to get elected to the House of Keys Edited September 4 by Moghrey Mie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Well, exactly: Cope’s not really the problem. Michael report, DHSC/MC split, Tynwald letting it go through on the nod without considering all the problems, financial and otherwise…but you’ve heard all this before. Binning Cope won’t fix the fundamental structural problems. He made some valid points (e.g. too many ‘executive teams’ and not enough front-line medical staff, etc). What he is saying is not an academic whinge, it’s the expressions of someone who has deep concerns about how the health service is being run. One aspect that should not be overlooked is that he openly acknowledges that by speaking out he is putting himself at considerable personal risk. Manx Care seem to have closed ranks against him, which means his future employment opportunities (in any government department) will be very limited…somewhat akin to the Dr Ranson case in that she also got ‘punished’ for questioning Management and trying to make the situation better. This should be an intolerable state of affairs in a democratic country, but unfortunately, intolerance of whistleblowers is a part of IOM’s flawed political regime. The Westminster model of Democracy is based on adversary Parliamentary political system where the official Opposition is tasked with holding the Government to account. Here, MHKs and MLCs are expected to agree with everything that the CM and CoMin say/ want/ decide, etc. Whenever ‘awkward’ questions are being raised in Tynwald, some Ministers tend to react with indignation along the lines of ‘how dare you are asking me that…?’. Unsurprising, a dearth of meaningful scrutiny in Tynwald leads to daft decision-making including the creation of unnecessary costly bureaucracy called Manx Care that does not add much to the wellbeing of IOM residents. It is beyond comprehension as to why the folk on this Island keep putting up with this, when the copious evidence proves that the system is not working for ordinary residents, IMHO. Edited September 4 by code99 typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 26 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: Ex DOI Ex DHSC Ex DOI. Ex DEFA Ex Manx Care employee Twice failed to get elected to the House of Keys Curious question - why so many exes? Couldn’t cope with the job? Useless? Dismissed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, 2112 said: Curious question - why so many exes? Couldn’t cope with the job? Useless? Dismissed? Useless idiot! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, code99 said: It is beyond comprehension as to why the folk on this Island keep putting up with this, when the copious evidence proves that the system is not working for ordinary residents, IMHO. I take your point: but I’m not sure what you’re suggesting as a solution - bloody insurrection? The “folk on this island” should rise up and burn Tynwald to the ground? Sadly, electing a new group in doesn’t seem to change anything - they’ll say what you want to hear on the doorstep (eg, Hooper) then do the exact opposite when in power (eg Hooper). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 13 minutes ago, 2112 said: Curious question - why so many exes? Couldn’t cope with the job? Useless? Dismissed? Ask code99... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Have these petitions ever actually changed anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said: Ask code99... The question I posed anyone can answer? An individual having so many roles within the civil service and various departments. If an individual had worked in either the DHSC/Manx Care/Nobles over 25+ years and was a well respected member of society, perhaps their opinions would lend a greater weight and influence thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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