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50 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Not that I can see.  They don't seem to have published the Deputy High Bailiff's judgment in the case of the four anaesthetists either.

Perfected judgments are running between 5 & 10 working days from being handed down and ending up published on the web. 

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7 minutes ago, Gladys said:

And an accurate time line of the material provided is to be given to a judge, according to PM.  So, does that mean a judicial review? 

Which judge is a another good question.  Are they having to get someone from the UK to provide the appropriate impartiality and assess the evidence concerning possible criminal charges? 

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3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Which judge is a another good question.  Are they having to get someone from the UK to provide the appropriate impartiality and assess the evidence concerning possible criminal charges? 

Why would they need to ship a judge in?  Nothing was said about criminal charges, but is evidence at a Tribunal given under oath? 

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27 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Are they having to get someone from the UK to provide the appropriate impartiality and assess the evidence concerning possible criminal charges? 

Yes because like the Hospital Anesthetists situation they’re now having to deal with proper UK defense lawyers and properly funded UK legal teams not the usual club member kangaroo courts.

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24 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Why would they need to ship a judge in?  Nothing was said about criminal charges, but is evidence at a Tribunal given under oath? 

Google says yes - 

When you arrive a clerk will check you in at reception. They'll usually ask if you have a representative, any witnesses and any documents for the tribunal. The clerk will also ask you and your witnesses if you want to: swear on your holy book that you'll tell the truth - this is called 'giving evidence on oath'

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13 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

Google says yes - 

When you arrive a clerk will check you in at reception. They'll usually ask if you have a representative, any witnesses and any documents for the tribunal. The clerk will also ask you and your witnesses if you want to: swear on your holy book that you'll tell the truth - this is called 'giving evidence on oath'

I thought it would be. 

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17 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

Was there not an allegation of evidence being fabricated? Minutes of a meeting IIRC

They would need to get someone in to deal with that?

Late production of minutes does not necessarily mean they were fabricated, not good practice, but not necessarily fabricated.  The real question is whether they are a true record of a meeting that took place. 

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15 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

Google says yes - 

When you arrive a clerk will check you in at reception. They'll usually ask if you have a representative, any witnesses and any documents for the tribunal. The clerk will also ask you and your witnesses if you want to: swear on your holy book that you'll tell the truth - this is called 'giving evidence on oath'

 

2 minutes ago, Gladys said:

I thought it would be. 

Depends on the Tribunal. Most have the power to take evidence on oath. Not all do. Ive never taken evidence on oath in Social Security, Work Permit, or Mental Health appeals. I have taken evidence on oath in Employment & Equality hearings

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