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1 minute ago, Banker said:

Alf already had him pencilled in before he was CM as one of his key supporters. Chris Thomas should be in Treasury but Alf wouldn’t want anyone difficult to control in charge!

Chris Thomas was exited from COMIN at the very start of this covid farce. Effectively by the Chief Secretary and Howard Quayle. There was clearly a huge difference of opinion on the border closures and the pandemic strategy right from off where people weren’t being listened to. 

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19 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

The more interesting part of that interview was the pressure put on Manx Radio not to report the story in the first place: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tribunal-decision-should-be-watershed-moment-says-mhk/

Indeed. And Glover seemed to imply that has happened during his time as News Editor as well (on other issues).

Quite astounding really that senior IOMG execs think they can dictate the news output on a national radio station.

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1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said:

Indeed. And Glover seemed to imply that has happened during his time as News Editor as well (on other issues).

Quite astounding really that senior IOMG execs think they can dictate the news output on a national radio station.

he didnt imply it. he was very clear.

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We are know learning that the medical information  Ashford received  was via his physically absent, medically unqualified CEO and that was an exclusive channel, not open for other medical  experts.

This is an extraordinary and quite shocking revelation.

 With hindsight it perhaps explains a few things. 

- like the April 15 th 2021 announcement he made that someone was dead after receiving a vaccination.

An important thing that - being dead or alive, not least for the individual and family.Something  to be sure of -either way.

Later that day a “ corrected and clarified” statement was issued that the individual was in the alternative category.

 

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12 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Quite astounding really that senior IOMG execs think they can dictate the news output on a national radio station.

Perhaps on the basis that they're handing it £1M a year?

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25 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

Perhaps on the basis that they're handing it £1M a year?

That's what Quayle thought ...

"At a parliament sitting on Tuesday 22 June, Quayle said: “Manx Radio, who were told this, chose not to run with the full story and just went and put a sensational headline, which is very disappointing, when you are giving a radio station £1 million of taxpayers’ money, that you are not getting balanced news where the full picture is given.” "

 

https://www.publicmediaalliance.org/editorial-independence-of-manx-radio-must-be-respected/

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21 hours ago, momo65 said:

Murray, and Ewart were Couch appointees

I had some indirect involvement in a couple of senior DHSC appointments. In the process of which some observations I made were either not considered resulting in additional costs or said appointees leaving shortly afterwards in bizzare circs. I doubt much will change going forward

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I would like to know what Tim Glover was doing when the questions about the secondment of the health and Social care to the Minister were being asked in 2019. ( probably lint rolling Ashfords suit as he interviewd him).

Question 1.12               https://www.tynwald.org.im/business/hansard/20002020/k191203.pdf                           This is classic David Ashford in his answers                                                                                                                                The Minister: Mr Speaker, I have got to say, to make a statement like that and say we are
failing the people of the Island, to be quite frank, personally, I find quite outrageous.
We are very lucky in the individual that we have been able to get. We had a lot of high-calibre
applications and Kathryn Magson is an absolutely outstanding candidate.
To be perfectly honest, Mr Speaker, if you need a chief executive who needs to micromanage
so much that they have got to be sat in one physical office going out and about, then there is
something very fundamentally wrong.
I think we are very lucky to have the candidate we have, Mr Speaker, and the very fact that
her current employer is willing to do it as a secondment, I think speaks volumes for the calibre of
candidate that we have got in the fact that they want her back once this secondment is over.

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3 hours ago, Johnny F said:

And why didn't he do something about that useless cow Ewart? she went on a two week holiday when the pandemic was really starting to ramp up on Island and when she returned she wouldn't answer calls or texts at the weekend, for f***s sake! the very moment when the island needed steering through choppy waters the director of public health goes on holiday!? You couldn't make it up. I was pleased to read that the tribunal recognised how diabolical her attitude was.

When covid was getting started someone who wasn't that long retired from Nobles told me Ewart was arrogant and stupid. Thought it was a bit harsh at the time, but now see they were spot on. 

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1 hour ago, Banker said:

Alf already had him pencilled in before he was CM as one of his key supporters. Chris Thomas should be in Treasury but Alf wouldn’t want anyone difficult to control in charge!

By difficult to control you mean has a brain and is capable of independent thought !

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2 hours ago, Johnny F said:

This really highlights why senior CS employees shouldn't be allowed to live off island. The 'Grantham meetings' had no minutes taken, they were covert off island meetings basically held in secret, ridiculous.

The whole episode  of the 'Grantham Meetings'[1] (see especially para 505 and following) was one of the most extraordinary revelations to come out of the whole thing (and that's saying something).  These were important meetings about the handover between DHSC and Manx Care - important enough to take place with some of the participants meeting in real life and booking somewhere to do so - and yet it is claimed that there are no agendas, no minutes, no certainty over who took part or the identity of some of them.  They even seem to be uncertain over how many how many meetings there were and on what dates.

[1]  Called that by Magson, though they actually took place in a village five miles away.  She is obviously as accurate about geography as she is about everything else.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

The whole episode  of the 'Grantham Meetings'[1] (see especially para 505 and following) was one of the most extraordinary revelations to come out of the whole thing (and that's saying something).  These were important meetings about the handover between DHSC and Manx Care - important enough to take place with some of the participants meeting in real life and booking somewhere to do so - and yet it is claimed that there are no agendas, no minutes, no certainty over who took part or the identity of some of them.  They even seem to be uncertain over how many how many meetings there were and on what dates.

[1]  Called that by Magson, though they actually took place in a village five miles away.  She is obviously as accurate about geography as she is about everything else.

And why did they have to take place in a 'private hotel room' and not in one of literally thousands of office spaces available for booking ona daily basis all across the UK?

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14 minutes ago, Dr. Grumpy said:

And why did they have to take place in a 'private hotel room' and not in one of literally thousands of office spaces available for booking ona daily basis all across the UK?

And who paid for the hotel room?  And travel and expenses?  Pretty sure we all know the answer to that...

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