IOM DHSC & MANX CARE

[rachomics]

14 minutes ago, GD4ELI said:

FWIW she's tweeting like a crazy lady and having a good time...

Ah, no, that would be me, not Dr Ranson. Your comment tells me I’m the only scientist you follow, otherwise you’d be saying “why are all the scientists tweeting about Eurovision?!”.

Eurovision is a huge cultural/community event for scientists on Twitter, especially so since Brexit. 

[GD4ELI]

6 minutes ago, rachomics said:

Ah, no, that would be me, not Dr Ranson. Your comment tells me I’m the only scientist you follow, otherwise you’d be saying “why are all the scientists tweeting about Eurovision?!”.

Eurovision is a huge cultural/community event for scientists on Twitter, especially so since Brexit. 

Ah, right.

[rachomics]

7 minutes ago, GD4ELI said:

Ah, right.

I do find it interesting that anything out of the ordinary or different from what people assume a scientist or medic should or shouldnt be talking about on twitter is immediately labelled as “crazy”. Food for thought.

If you want to diversify your scientists on twitter I’d suggest starting with these. Once you start following scientists the rest of us pop up as suggestions. Science Twitter is different because we all tweet under our real names.

* Alan McNally (also likes football, Scottish, very sweary, into antibiotic resistance but also set up a COVID lab)

* Willem van Schaik (Dutch, bugs, bit of a foodie, likes to rate English breakfasts)

* Mick Watson (worked with him years ago, political)

Edited May 15, 2022 by rachomics

[TheTeapot]

12 minutes ago, rachomics said:

 

* Alan McNally (also likes football, Scottish, very sweary, into antibiotic resistance but also set up a COVID lab)

This is an interesting one for you to recommend. He was calling for the winding down of the excessive testing a long long time ago, especially PCR, despite being so heavily involved early on. He argued that just testing hospital admissions would be enough to pick up variants and that much of the rest of it was largely a waste of time, money and other resources.

[rachomics]

Just now, TheTeapot said:

This is an interesting one for you to recommend. He was calling for the winding down of the excessive testing a long long time ago, especially PCR, despite being so heavily involved early on. He argued that just testing hospital admissions would be enough to pick up variants and that much of the rest of it was largely a waste of time, money and other resources.

Scientists aren’t as polarised (like them | don’t like them) as the rest of the population seem to be. We value differing opinions from each other, it’s what makes science tick. The IOM is far more polarised than the UK, I’d suggest, in that you have to be on one side of the fence or the other and put others into those boxes too.
I like Alan, he shares great science content and is good for conversations on a range of topics.

[TheTeapot]

1 minute ago, rachomics said:

Scientists aren’t as polarised as the rest of the population seem to be.

I don't agree with that!

As a non-scientist who has followed the pandemic pretty closely the division in the scientific community has been wild. You've got the well credentialed outright cranks like Malone, the often right but overall wrong like Kulldorf and bhattacharya (gbd), or the total opposite side of the fence and even more wrong in the independent sage group* and other zero groups. There are all kinds of views, alternative readings of papers, and arguments. It's been a ride watching much of it unfold.

Following the science is a tricky business.

*Isage are currently platforming a guy who was a Wakefield supporter and made money selling supplements to 'cure' autism. Yet people still follow them uncritically because they say what they want to hear.

[rachomics]

Yeah, but you’re looking from the outside in via Twitter.
Being a scientist is like living on the Isle of Man. Tiny community of people who all know each other in real life. We know who the quacks are.

[TheTeapot]

5 minutes ago, rachomics said:

We know who the quacks are.

Deepti Gurdasani is a quack.

[Hoops]

2 hours ago, rachomics said:

Yeah, but you’re looking from the outside in via Twitter.
Being a scientist is like living on the Isle of Man. Tiny community of people who all know each other in real life. We know who the quacks are.

Wait til europe follows america with it's ministry of truth, or whatever pseudonym they want to call it. Then those that don't follow the narrative will be shut up.

[Moddey Dhoo]

On 5/13/2022 at 7:54 PM, Roger Mexico said:

And yet strangely the 360 Feedback rather differed with her in their opinions of Dr Ranson:

607. Because of what Miss Magson said about Dr Ranson when misleading Mrs Cope and Mr Foster in October / November 2020, the Tribunal considered it appropriate to summarise how out of step was her viewpoint compared with those who had contributed to this 360 -Colleague Feedback Summary of March-June 2021. The anonymous responses were from:  One GP.  Six Hospital Doctors.  Three nurses.  One Manager.  Two “other clinical” and  Three non-clinical.

608. Dr Ranson’s highest score was 98%. The lowest was 72%. As to Peer Average involving ten categories of abilities for assessment, five results were over 80% with two over 90%. The few de minimis adverse comments were noted by the Tribunal but lost in the endless list of favourable observations. It would be disproportionate to recite the several pages of praise but here is a cross-section of comments summarising what Manx Care lost because of the message delivered by Miss Magson:

a) The best Medical Director I have ever seen.

b) Excellent understanding of change management.

c) Dr Ranson has exercised great integrity in very difficult circumstances. A less resilient person may have crumbled but she has remained a very credible clinician and accountable Medical Director.

d) Has worked above and beyond during Covid-19.

e) Despite facing many intensely difficult, if not overtly hostile situations over the past year, she has been able to maintain a good work/life balance and to delegate tasks when appropriate.

f) Very professional hard worker, respectful, malleable and easy-going.

g) In addition to excellent clinical skills, Dr Ranson has excellent management skills.

and so on all the way through z) to aa).  Of course we discovered recently that the latest staff survey of doctors had a rather different opinion of the current management.   

Unfortunately the process of getting 360 degree feedback currently involves selecting people who you like and think will give you good feedback. An alternative and pretty widespread view was that beyond the covid response she was not very good and concerns were voiced to senior management very early on. The strategy of letting her contract run out rather than properly performance manage her out was always likely to fail and now we are going to be saddled with an absolutely huge payout the size of which will stagger the general public. An examination of the circumstances under which she left previous roles may be informative.

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, Moddey Dhoo said:

Unfortunately the process of getting 360 degree feedback currently involves selecting people who you like and think will give you good feedback. An alternative and pretty widespread view was that beyond the covid response she was not very good and concerns were voiced to senior management very early on. The strategy of letting her contract run out rather than properly performance manage her out was always likely to fail and now we are going to be saddled with an absolutely huge payout the size of which will stagger the general public. An examination of the circumstances under which she left previous roles may be informative.

But Ranson didn't select those people - it's Magson who is supposed to be the 360 feedback specialist.  And at the time of the survey, these people were working for Manx Care not DHSC anyway.

If you read those comments, they're mainly concerned with her non-Covid work.  And if you read the full judgement there's plenty of praise and evidence for what she did apart from her work on Covid, indeed the point is made that she didn't let that become her only focus and continued with the other work as well, resulting in very long hours.  Magson attempted to stop some of her initiatives there as well, for no apparent reason other than spite.  And then went on to blame Ranson to other people for not producing things she had ordered her to stop.

[hampsterkahn]

1 hour ago, Moddey Dhoo said:

Unfortunately the process of getting 360 degree feedback currently involves selecting people who you like and think will give you good feedback. An alternative and pretty widespread view was that beyond the covid response she was not very good and concerns were voiced to senior management very early on. The strategy of letting her contract run out rather than properly performance manage her out was always likely to fail and now we are going to be saddled with an absolutely huge payout the size of which will stagger the general public. An examination of the circumstances under which she left previous roles may be informative.

1.This is at odds with the evidence presented at the very  lengthy tribunal.

It would seem strange that if there was a such  “widespread view” of her “not being very good” and “ concerns were voiced to senior management” then this was not acted on, recorded and produced in evidence.

In the absence of anything else,  the floundering  defence would  surely  have desperately  clutched at something like that.

2. As to “an examination of  the circumstances under which she left previous roles may be informative”.

Informative in what way? Is this a side-of-mouth implication that there something seriously adverse about her work in previous roles that should have precluded her from being selected for the post? 

Even if this was the case, which I doubt, it is irrelevant when you consider  the Dept selected, appraised her qualifications and work record,  interviewed and appointed her.Their choice.

[2112]

The Peoples Prince has made an appearance on the NPM today, crying out ‘the public has a right to know’ as to the cost of which it’s going to cost IOMG in the Employment Tribunal which went against them. Perhaps now he has finally come off the fence, others may now follow, putting CM Cannan under pressure of which he probably hasn’t experienced, that he will be forced to take action.
 

I can’t see him getting his beloved Ministerial post now, I think Moorehouse has a greater chance than him. It’s ironic really, he has spent his time creeping, fawning and trying to be all things to all people, and in the previous regime, he failed to challenge on anything of substance, and now he has come off the fence. 

[John Wright]

2 hours ago, hampsterkahn said:

1.This is at odds with the evidence presented at the very  lengthy tribunal.

It would seem strange that if there was a such  “widespread view” of her “not being very good” and “ concerns were voiced to senior management” then this was not acted on, recorded and produced in evidence.

In the absence of anything else,  the floundering  defence would  surely  have desperately  clutched at something like that.

2. As to “an examination of  the circumstances under which she left previous roles may be informative”.

Informative in what way? Is this a side-of-mouth implication that there something seriously adverse about her work in previous roles that should have precluded her from being selected for the post? 

3. Even if this was the case, which I doubt, it is irrelevant when you consider  the Dept selected, appraised her qualifications and work record,  interviewed and appointed her.Their choice.

3. The same selection process that gave jobs to Dr Dirk, Angela Murray, Ian Longworth, Charters, Charters, Maison. Got to be right.

As for 1. Heavens knows why they ran the defence the way they did. But remember, lawyers are only as good as the instructions they’re given. If DHSC and Magson were in total denial at all stages of instruction and preparation.

This was one to resolve, very early, just like Tinwell.

interesting reference to Tinwell. It appears to still be alive as to remedy. That implies that DHSC caved, mid hearing, on liability. 

[2112]

I think it’s time that CM Cannan acts like a leader, and has a COMIN reshuffle. I would put Ashford back to the backbench’s, he has quite frankly too many questions to answer, and is a distraction. The tribunal who are looking at other issues may decide to refer aspects to higher authorities and in turn it may implicate people.