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5 hours ago, monasqueen said:

Has anyone got any figures showing how many people voted in each constituency?

It seemed like a very low turnout.

No, it's a bit annoying.  There are total number of those who voted for some constituencies (though at least one is wrong), turnouts for others, neither for some.   All this is just through via news organisations, not officially and relies on what bits of information particular returning officers chose to announce.   I don't think there's an obligation on central government to publish anything but the names of those elected. 

There will be physical copies of Notice of Result forms pinned up in various places around the Island, but you'd have to traipse round to see them all and they don't include the electorate figure that would enable turnout to be calculated.  It's not the sort of transparency you should expect in a democracy or professionalism you should expect from the very well people at the Cabinet Office - it's not like they're Parish Clerks doing a few hours a week.

At the very least it should have been possible to have put up the Notice of Result forms on the website on Friday (here's the one from the Douglas South By-Election for example and for those forms to also include the relevant electorate.

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I watched the Paul Moulton youtube with Robertshaw and Sam Turton. They both said they ,had expected Jason Moorhouse to top the poll. I call bullshit, and bet neither of them would have said that at any time in the 5 years leading up to the election.

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I've just watched some of that.  Why do they keep on having Robertshaw on these programmes?  He chunters on with the most absurd beliefs (he's still pushing for Cregeen to be elected to LegCo) He barely seems aware who has been elected and by how much.  He adds no information - and yet he's everywhere.  Will no one else turn up?  Is he just there to make the presenter look better informed?  It's a mystery.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

Why do they keep on having Robertshaw on these programmes?

A bit like Phil Gawne in that he likes the sound of his own voice and he thinks he has something to contribute.

In all his time in Tynwald he achieved the princely sum of sweet fuck all (that, in different words, by his own admission, but he mentions he has "failed").

Maybe with all the excess money Manx Radio now has to lose, he might get a job sat next to Phil Gawne presenting up there.

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They've finally managed to get the Notices of Result up on the election site as I was complaining about a couple of days ago, but it's still a bit slow.  Though I notice that the ACM one doesn't match the rather odd one that was pinned up in the Square and presumably a Vaughan-Williams invention.  So they may have spent the last few days trying to get sense out of lawyers, which is always a challenge.

Edited to add:  I spoke too soon.  The Ayre and Michael figures are missing.  Maybe Appleby are still filling in the votes.  (Actually this time they gave it to Sally Bolton, who I would have thought a fairly safe pair of hands).

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3 hours ago, Declan said:

Why do they get lawyers to do it? They need to be people competent at managing admin tasks. 

Tradition.  Normally elections in the UK are run by the permanent employees of local authorities, who nowadays will be specialists in it, but these didn't exist when elections started in the Isle of Man and the lawyers were seen as the only literate people they could rely on to comply with the relevant law.  They've hung on to the job ever since.

It's a bit odd because local authorities are now trusted to run their own elections, which are technically more complicated to count.  Though till recently some smaller parishes did bring in legal help the odd time they had a contested election.  

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On 9/28/2021 at 1:49 PM, Roger Mexico said:

I've just watched some of that.  Why do they keep on having Robertshaw on these programmes?  He chunters on with the most absurd beliefs (he's still pushing for Cregeen to be elected to LegCo) He barely seems aware who has been elected and by how much.  He adds no information - and yet he's everywhere.  Will no one else turn up?  Is he just there to make the presenter look better informed?  It's a mystery.

Sounds like Douglas East just before the elections.  Living in the stockbroker/politician belt that is Ballavitchel he rarely ventured into the relative slums of Douglas except when he needed votes.

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