Beelzebub3 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Alternately just reduce the power of the Chief Minister by having the Ministers elected by Tynwald instead of by the Chief Minister as a favour for voting for them. It would remove the power of the Chief Minister to hire and fire at whim (let's not forget Costains bunch of flowers and a forced resignation) which seems to originate from trying to make the system similar to that we had with the Governor being in charge. It means that when Ministers mess up Tynwald can remove them rather the Chief Minister who may not fire them for fear of losing a loyal supporter (Cregeen, Baker, Harmer and Boot all should have gone at various points). Too much power in one person's hands is never a good thing. Cregeen, Baker, Harmer and Boot have all bit the dust, the Electorate have done the former CM should have done a long time ago. Edited September 24, 2021 by Beelzebub3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub3 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Shake me up Judy said: Cannan is the only sensible option for CM. It'll be interesting though to watch if the real decision makers get to work on Ashford to step forward. Ashford would never make a decision without someone prompting him, CM material he is not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: Ashford would never make a decision without someone prompting him, CM material he is not. He has said, today, that he does not intend to stand as CM. With that announcement, he has risen about 2 points in my estimation. I hope he sticks to it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Treasury minister then cm next time is ashies route. It was always going to be cannan this time around, otherwise what was the point in shielding him from criticism throughout corona? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub3 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Treasury minister then cm next time is ashies route. It was always going to be cannan this time around, otherwise what was the point in shielding him from criticism throughout corona? You have lost the plot, DA treasury minister would not go very well, his track record at DBC was not that good, chewing gum machine springs to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 It will be up to the Members of the House of Keys, many of whom are newbies and by definition and without having been an MHK previously let alone sat in the inner sanctum of the Council of Ministers won't have that much of a clue what it is they are actually voting for. But they still have a vote. And many are indeed women. So in the absence of a clear candidate Jane Poole-Wilson may well be the one. But it will be Cannan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: Ashford would never make a decision without someone prompting him, CM material he is not. That’s where the Chief Secretary comes in, all has alway will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightening McQueen Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: Cannan is the only sensible option for CM. It'll be interesting though to watch if the real decision makers get to work on Ashford to step forward. I'd make Cannan DoI Minister, he's got the ego to do battle with them and sort out their budgeting and performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightening McQueen Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: You have lost the plot, DA treasury minister would not go very well, his track record at DBC was not that good, chewing gum machine springs to mind. This year's budget has been shredded unfortunately! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Treasury minister then cm next time is ashies route. It was always going to be cannan this time around, otherwise what was the point in shielding him from criticism throughout corona? I feel Allinson has been setup perfectly for the CM role for all the reasons you’ve just mentioned, it’s definitely between Allinson and Cannan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lightening McQueen said: This year's budget has been shredded unfortunately! Having served it's purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 In the absence of The Sole taking up his rightful place, JPW is a close 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Gladys said: He has said, today, that he does not intend to stand as CM. With that announcement, he has risen about 2 points in my estimation. I hope he sticks to it. When is a leader not a leader though? It should be the best person for the role, not who wants to play big chief and who doesn’t. The fact he doesn’t want to do it shows a big weakness IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Rob Callister for me, if not CM then DOI minister 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightening McQueen Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: Having served it's purpose? Sorry, wasn't clear, prior to budget day if DA was in charge 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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