The Voice of Reason Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 hours ago, quilp said: Very funny Roger but the prayer element is suggestive that there is some divine influence also present, adding a particular righteousness to the proceedings. In the eyes of believers it is quintessential that the lord's presence in the ether is qualified by the prayers. "Guide us, oh lord.." I take it seriously, it offends me. Freedom from religion, not freedom of religion, the house should be secular. Besides, which 'god'; whose 'god' are the prayers aimed at? The White christ? Allah? Yahweh, et al? It's all ceremonial, archaic bollocks and should have no place in the modernising process. I don’t believe that anyone thinks the prayer element suggests that divine influence is present or adds a particular righteousness to the proceedings. Its just a traditional part of the process like wearing funny clothes and wigs etc. I do fail to see how you can be offended by it. Its all quite benign and having prayers in Tynwald is not going to lead to civil wars, acts of terrorism etc that some associate with religion. Would you be offended by someone reading the “Fisherman’s prayer” which entreats God ( whichever God you choose)to keep fisherman safe on the seas, on the basis that fishing is a secular activity? How many advocates of keeping the house secular will have their children christened, marry in a religious ceremony or have a religious funeral when their time comes? Certainly in our own society here it is not worth getting wound up about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, 2112 said: The Private Rented Sector could be decimated, but Government will be picking up the pieces It's pretty much decimated as it is. Tried renting privately recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I can’t believe you two are fighting over prayers and I’m talking about drugs and extortion. Not fighting, discussing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Decriminalise it. We’re short of money. Not enough tourists come here Decriminalise it and put the money saved into tourism and leisure so everyone wins. I’m not saying I’d like it to happen but, as a business woman, I can see an extremely lucrative money making opportunity. ”Not on my watch”. He’s not in charge now. 😊 Well you may not like it to happen but as a businesswoman can you see an extremely lucrative money making opportunity in decriminalizing prostitution? Make sure tax is paid on it and put the money into tourism and leisure so everyone wins🤗 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Well you may not like it to happen but as a businesswoman can you see an extremely lucrative money making opportunity in decriminalizing prostitution? Make sure tax is paid on it and put the money into tourism and leisure so everyone wins🤗 In my extensive research I have little or no examples of prostitution over here. Apart from around TT time and special events. Girls travelling in to service the need . 😉 Edited October 6, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Allinson is talking up rates reform within the first 100 days. That will upset some of the country dwellers who don't want to pay their fair share towards island life! Excellent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Nonsense. They can get it from their previous roles in life and in Parliament. I give it 2 years before the Cannan administration messes things up. We don't need a large lurch to the right at anytime. No doubt we'll follow the UK down the privitisation of the NHS route. Coincidentally Manx Care is the perfect vehicle for them to do this. Interesting, so who do you think has demonstrated the leadership qualities required to be CM within our current crop of non ministers, and based on what evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, James Blonde said: Allinson is talking up rates reform within the first 100 days. That will upset some of the country dwellers who don't want to pay their fair share towards island life! Excellent. Think he might have his hands full with CS in treasury. Not sure if they fancy it as too complicated for them. Needs sorting though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 5 hours ago, pongo said: Personally I would like to see the government spend more improving services. Living within one's means always sounds like a rather depressing prospect. Even domestically. Surely the positive and optimistic response to not having enough money is to make more money. And it's supposed to be spent - that's what keeps the economy moving. The nicest places tend to be those places where government spends more. Isn't this levelling up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Happier diner said: He resigned. He is a GP no more. Yes he is, and he keeps up his professional practice with locum work. Alex is a bright guy. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I'm not sure it matters which of the two gets in (and I don't have a preference at this point), or what NEEDS to be done (and it does need doing). Either of them are going to have a battle on their hands doing it. And that's not a battle with the GMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCallig Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Is the House of Keys election of CM by secret ballot? If not, and it's an open vote - resentments and vendettas will linger long into the term of the new House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: Alex is a bright guy. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet. he wasn't bright enough when it came to expecting laxey residents to swallow the bullshit he was pedaling on his departments say so. should have just been honest and said they fucked up. Edited October 7, 2021 by WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, WTF said: he wasn't bright enough when it came to expecting laxey residents to swallow the bullshit he was pedaling on his departments say so. should have just been honest and said they fucked up. I think you have got that the wrong way around. He was the bright one, it was the residents of Laxey that were dim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Halsall Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: Yes he is, and he keeps up his professional practice with locum work. Alex is a bright guy. I don’t think we’ve seen the best of him yet. So he is a real doctor then, unlike Michelle H? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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