pongo Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Declan said: It’s possible to talk posh and have an accent Dublin and Edinburgh lawyers would be good examples. Certainly 20 years ago. And some from an older generation of East Coast Americans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: He talks posh, that's all people really seem to care about. He wouldn't stand a chance if people used their memory of how his policies screwed over hundreds of households during the lockdowns. Sandhurst training? Certainly competent of revealing close to nothing in honey worded rhetorical spiel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Off a tangent, just been watching Sky News, they were interviewing the Former Jersey Chief Minister, now External Affairs, Ian Gorst. It related to a potential French blockade of St Helier over fishing rights, and a possible disruption of power supplies. Ian Gorst - What a complete opposite to what the IOM has to offer. Able to handle the interview without having an errrrrrrrr ummmmmn moment or hissy fit, like a news conference. Obviously if he had media training, Jersey had its moneys worth. Can you imagine the likes of our politicos being interviewed……. on the national stage that is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 9:19 PM, SleepyJoe said: Sandhurst training? Certainly competent of revealing close to nothing in honey worded rhetorical spiel Both were as bad as each other. Trying to put point each other. Bernie Moffat has nicknamed Allinson ‘Popeye’. I can see the resemblance. Also think he looks like Crazy Frog’. He comes across as warm, caring and soothing Dr bedside manner, but underneath is his socialist tendencies itching to get into action. Alf meanwhile so much promise but like everything done in the last 10 years he has shone and done nothing. Sandhurst Leadership? Captain Mainwaring? Not even Captain Pugwash I’m afraid. Allinson no better, both could have challenged whilst in Treasury and Education. Challenged themselves to keep quiet more like, think of the easy money and don’t rock the boat. An way £87,000 is on the way and a guaranteed gong, with Buck House visit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 What are these socialist tendencies - are they the ones that adopt the higher ambition pathway to net zero and put an end to those 'parasitic inequalities'? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: What are these socialist tendencies - are they the ones that adopt the higher ambition pathway to net zero and put an end to those 'parasitic inequalities'? Tax the rich till the pips squeak. Tax the homeowner. Tax every resident in the home a la poll tax. Create more bureaucracy for employers. Create new regulations. Create new taxes. Is he working in conjunction with Richard Murphy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Roxanne said: Yes, could see why that might make him less appealing as a CM. I listened to most of the debate yesterday on MR and the one huge takeaway was that Dr Allison allowed the interviewer to interject with questions and these questions were listened to and answered. Mr Cannan however barged through every question, raising his voice over the interviewer’s interjections to continue on his trajectory, not once coming back to the supplementary questions. This despite him stating numerous times that what was required in a CM was to be a listener. If that is his common practice then it doesn’t bode well for the future. Was Allan Bell any better? Allinson with his warm words and gentle bedside manner very nice and palatable, but will leave a bitter aftertaste. I’m not over keen on Alf Cannan either. He has played the game, achieving nothing, are things going to be different? Words easy, actions count. Playing to the gallery and playing to Facebook groupies is also easy, it is harder trying to put your plans into action. Allinson and his radical ideas and thoughts are well and good, if not careful runs the risk of frightening residents to sell up and leave. This is happening with landlords, it’s fact not fiction, lots of small scale landlords whose properties supplement their income. Sadly all the landlords have been demonised, and some have decided to get out. Others are refusing to help out third sector players, again due to lack of support and again due to arrogant, hateful and spiteful comments by certain individuals - and politicos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Would be great if he was, RIchard Murphy with his accounting led approach to economics is an eminently sensible contributor to debate on financing the UK economy I suspect the policies you attribute to Dr Allinson are a figment of your own imagination 2112 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 It would be interesting to hear Dr Allinsons take on the current trajectory of Manx Care? After all he was part of the previous regime which made the decisions. Surely as a medical expert there must have been disagreements or concerns, or did he think that everything is tickety boo? Then the Covid Pandemic arose, surely he could have used his influence and medical knowledge. Chris Thomas is lots of things (nice person) - too wordy and boring, though he is principled and it was his principles which got him sacked. He is prepared to add his two pennerth which is good. It’s one draw back of collective responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Yes, could see why that might make him less appealing as a CM. I listened to most of the debate yesterday on MR and the one huge takeaway was that Dr Allison allowed the interviewer to interject with questions and these questions were listened to and answered. Mr Cannan however barged through every question, raising his voice over the interviewer’s interjections to continue on his trajectory, not once coming back to the supplementary questions. This despite him stating numerous times that what was required in a CM was to be a listener. If that is his common practice then it doesn’t bode well for the future. Whilst you do have a valid point, it’s should be based upon policy as opposed to personality. I don’t believe any of the 24 have what it takes to be CM. If either, Alf, Allinson or a.n. Other are elected, they will only have the tools at their disposal, which aren’t the sharpest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, 2112 said: Is he working in conjunction with Richard Murphy? 53 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Would be great if he was, RIchard Murphy with his accounting led approach to economics is an eminently sensible contributor to debate on financing the UK economy I wonder is Richard aware that our Stu is an MHK now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, 2112 said: I don’t believe any of the 24 have what it takes to be CM. If either, Alf, Allinson or a.n. Other are elected, they will only have the tools at their disposal, which aren’t the sharpest. There will always be support, advice and direction from the English Crown Dependency office. Doesn't matter who gets in as CM really. At least they can all get together and get rid of someone who isn't nice to them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Barlow said: I wonder is Richard aware that our Stu is an MHK now. Wasn't that why he ran? To get access to our secret military. Edited October 11, 2021 by Ham_N_Eggs Make it less nonsensical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Apple said: There will always be support, advice and direction from the English Crown Dependency office. Doesn't matter who gets in as CM really. At least they can all get together and get rid of someone who isn't nice to them all. A nice gentle kind of politics then? A different kind of political assassination? Stabbed in the front and back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: Yes, could see why that might make him less appealing as a CM. I listened to most of the debate yesterday on MR and the one huge takeaway was that Dr Allison allowed the interviewer to interject with questions and these questions were listened to and answered. Mr Cannan however barged through every question, raising his voice over the interviewer’s interjections to continue on his trajectory, not once coming back to the supplementary questions. This despite him stating numerous times that what was required in a CM was to be a listener. If that is his common practice then it doesn’t bode well for the future. I thought that Cannon dealt with an interviewer who's interjections were often random and added little, quite well. The interruptions weren't even Moultonesque but borne out of Moss's hatred of being silent. Edited October 11, 2021 by Declan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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