SleepyJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Well, he's got Ashford and Crookall and . . .er . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I guess we'll not be cleaning under the rugs for the next 5 years at least ! A few will be breathing a sigh of relief. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747-400 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Lost Login said: There are eight Ministers required but in reality at least two departments, possibly more, can be filled by MHK's whose only quality is loyalty to the CM. i.e. Home Affairs and Food & AG Treasury, Health, DOI and Education require a strong hand and a bit of knowledge and ability but Enterprise and Policy & Reform are probably departments that are effective with somebody decent in charge, but if they don't would bumble along in offensively. That really only needs the CM looking for 6 MHKs with the ability to run a department but could get away with 4 with the other 4 just yes persons. Or am I being harsh? Good summary. I think the Enterprise role is very important and with someone strong and outward looking in place they could actually have a really strong impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Could go to KLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Unless Chris Thomas is interested in a new economic development department and is willing to work with Cannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 How quickly do you think the new CM will announce NI rises because of 'reasons'? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, 747-400 said: Good summary. I think the Enterprise role is very important and with someone strong and outward looking in place they could actually have a really strong impact. It maybe important but I don't have your confidence that it will have a strong impact. Isle of Finance which is meant to be out there trying to attract work to the Isle of Man has a couple of guys with a few support staff. https://www.financeisleofman.com/about/meet-the-team-2/ Jersey through a load more bodies at it https://www.jerseyfinance.je/our-team/team/ and a very much larger budget. One is tinkering around the edges hoping they get lucky, one is out there to get work. No need to guess which of those 2 the IoM is. Effectively Jersey Government goes out there and tries to bring business back to Jersey. The IoM relies on the private sector. Basically the IoM is completely outgunned and whilst that remains so don't expect great results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Unless Chris Thomas is interested in a new economic development department and is willing to work with Cannan I am sure he would work with Cannan as long as CT gets the headlines when there is good news and any bad news gets attributed to Cannan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Why outsource stuff to KPMG when there is the capable Chris Thomas sitting there in the House of Keys? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Gladys said: DA will I am sure get up to speed on fiscal and finance matters in no time at all, I am sure. Pity all his medical knowledge will go to waste. 🤦♂️ Baby steps... but yes no doubt he will be a financial genius within months, shredding £50 notes for fun. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CallMeCurious said: How quickly do you think the new CM will announce NI rises because of 'reasons'? Almost as quickly he shoved up sewage tax last time. It'll only be for the middle earners. Alf will make sure the HNWIs are OK. He'll keep cuddled up to Manx Gas instead of making them stop ripping us off. Edited October 12, 2021 by Ringy Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: Why outsource stuff to KPMG when there is the capable Chris Thomas sitting there in the House of Keys? Chris is an academic , but has no real business experience or acumen to add to that the previous minister has left the department looking like a stranded beached whale ,void of experienced entrepreneurial staff , there needs to be a root and branch review of the department of Enterprise , as in its present form its not pulling its weight ,right across the spectrum , Tourism is a shadow of its former self ,and Banking ,corporate services are fading away , and in spite of this Aircraft registry and shipping are continuing to show significant growth , but that because they are now technically ring fenced from the department and they have excellent dedicated staff , Chris will probably want to sit in judgement on all the scrutiny committees with Mr Squeeker , after all its the same pay now weather you are working hard in a department or a back bencher ,which I could never understand , we live in strange times ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 The registers are a success because they have kept themselves as far away from government as possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SleepyJoe Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Omobono said: Chris is an academic , but has no real business experience or acumen to add to that the previous minister has left the department looking like a stranded beached whale ,void of experienced entrepreneurial staff , there needs to be a root and branch review of the department of Enterprise , as in its present form its not pulling its weight ,right across the spectrum , Tourism is a shadow of its former self ,and Banking ,corporate services are fading away , and in spite of this Aircraft registry and shipping are continuing to show significant growth , but that because they are now technically ring fenced from the department and they have excellent dedicated staff , Chris will probably want to sit in judgement on all the scrutiny committees with Mr Squeeker , after all its the same pay now weather you are working hard in a department or a back bencher ,which I could never understand , we live in strange times ! Mr Thomas is surely a professionally qualified financial analyst? He'd be wasted on scrutiny committees when active development of our economy is required However, he is content to play a part from the back benches https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/wannenburgh-explains-refusal-to-vote-in-cm-election/ Edited October 13, 2021 by SleepyJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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