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[Dave Ward]

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[ballaughbiker]

On 9/27/2021 at 1:23 PM, kevster said:

Not accurate.

CI are part of British Isles and British Islands (not mentioned here)

[John Wright]

41 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said:

Not accurate.

CI are part of British Isles and British Islands (not mentioned here)

But are they part of the British Isles geographically. They’re on a different continental shelf. They’re a British Island, politically, but not a British Isle geographically.

Except, perhaps, there is a political aspect to geographical naming. The Irish aren’t happy with their island being described as part of the British Isles. But the English are.

[Roger Mexico]

49 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said:

Not accurate.

CI are part of British Isles and British Islands (not mentioned here)

British Islands perhaps, but not part of the British Isles if you are going to use that as a geographical term.  As Wiki says: 

The British Isles are a group of islands in the North Atlantic off the north-western coast of continental Europe, consisting of the islands of Great Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man, the Hebrides and over six thousand smaller islands.[...] The Channel Islands, off the north coast of France, are sometimes taken to be part of the British Isles, even though they do not form part of the archipelago.

But if you're going to use it politically rather than geographically and include the (British) Channel islands, you then can't include Ireland in the definition.  I say (British) because there are also parts of the Channel Islands archipelago that are part of France.

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[John Wright]

On 9/27/2021 at 12:24 PM, Declan said:

Tell Ptolemy. 

Or Wiki

Or the OED

Except Britain comes from the Brittas tribes who occupied Brittany and England and Wales in Roman times.

Britain was divided into lower ( or lesser - smaller ) which was Brittany and greater ( or bigger - larger ) which was England & Wales.

Scotland, and Ireland were populated by different tribes and had different names for Ptolemy, Scotia was exclusively Scotland and Hibernia originally covered both Scotland and Ireland - and later Ireland only.

The geographic unit called Britain was/is England & Wales only. That certainly applied to Ptolemy.

However the terms Britain as a geographic unit and Great Britain as a geopolitical unit created in 1707 are used, wrongly, as interchangeable. OED and Wiki just join in the confusion.

[The Phantom]

14 minutes ago, John Wright said:

But are they part of the British Isles geographically. They’re on a different continental shelf. They’re a British Island, politically, but not a British Isle geographically.

Britain and Europe are on the same continental shelf....  

The drop off from the European shelf to the Abyssal Plain is way south of Ireland and goes diagonally SE to the Bay of Biscay towards Biarritz.  Then it pretty much follows the coast of Spain & Portugal. 

Your point would work for the Canaries or Azores, which are the tops of seamounts from the Abyssal Plain, but not the Channel Islands. 

 

[Declan]

What is the name of the largest island of the British Isles then John?

[Andy Onchan]

15 minutes ago, Declan said:

What is the name of the largest island of the British Isles then John?

United Kingdom?

[The Old Git]

18 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

United Kingdom?

That on two islands

[The Old Git]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

Except Britain comes from the Brittas tribes who occupied Brittany and England and Wales in Roman times.

Ah, the Brittas Empire

[Declan]

24 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

United Kingdom?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland you mean?

Besides Unions and Kingdoms are transitory admin functions. 

 

[Andy Onchan]

Just now, Declan said:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland you mean?

Besides Unions and Kingdoms are transitory admin functions. 

 

If you had specified that before I wouldn't have put UK. 

[Declan]

I did earlier in thread.