asitis Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The building regulations for new oil tanks in the IOM are a direct copy of the English regulations. Same in Wales, northern ireland, Scotland. The UK must be infested with pencil necks and drowning in bureaucracy too. Or perhaps it's that oil tanks are hazardous and present a risk of pollution if not fitted correctly. It's a pain in the arse I agree and yes it's one big reason that gas appeals. I reckon it would still pay in the long run. You could always replace a tank yourself and pay someone cash in hand to help you out. Sorry I had gone on a general rant after being involved in a nonsensical planning saga where common sense didn't enter into it ! Planning is a lottery depending on who you are, who submits the application, who represents you, and whether the MHK overseeing the application is a twat or not ! Ps all this which raised my bile was over a hedge ! FFS. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: Unfortunately not I had to have a new tank recently and it was a massive pain in the ass as nobody would re-install it where it was because the regs had changed. Cost me a bloody fortune to have it re-sited. I can see why people go for gas. It’s easy. I had that regulation quoted at me when I needed a new tank, fortunately found a plumber who just replaced tank in same spot 😀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, asitis said: Sorry I had gone on a general rant after being involved in a nonsensical planning saga where common sense didn't enter into it ! Planning is a lottery depending on who you are, who submits the application, who represents you, and whether the MHK overseeing the application is a twat or not ! Ps all this which raised my bile was over a hedge ! FFS. Which MHKs oversee planning applications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Which MHKs oversee planning applications? which ever you involve to try and get planning to act reasonably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Far as I know MHKs aren't involved, unless you go for an appeal & the Minister makes the final decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: Far as I know MHKs aren't involved, unless you go for an appeal & the Minister makes the final decision You got it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Markets are forecasting prices of 700 - 800p per therm for natural gas from tomorrow. 500p per therm is giving us the current price levels. 800p per therm is just bleak and not worth thinking about. If only we had a local source of natural gas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Markets are forecasting prices of 700 - 800p per therm for natural gas from tomorrow. 500p per therm is giving us the current price levels. 800p per therm is just bleak and not worth thinking about. If only we had a local source of natural gas. The truth is though, we don't do we? They ain't found it yet. They believe there is potentially exploitative gas, thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The truth is though, we don't do we? They ain't found it yet. They believe there is potentially exploitative gas, thats all. Better educated people than me have said there's a viable supply of gas there for about a 15 year supply. It's apparently shown on some 1980's survey that was done. Back then it wasn't economically viable to extract. Today's world is a whole new ball game. If there's anyone out there that has access to said surveys and can interpret them differently then I would love to hear from them. The reality remains that 800p a therm is a whole other level of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Putin has turned the EU gas tap off. It will be another spike that will subside. Yes, they'll just import all that gas from... the moon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 It was in the NPM this morning that Manx Gas has changed its name to Island Energy. It’s rebranding and is new strapline is ‘more than a gas company’ …………… it’s a shite company. This will be another reason for Manx Gas to justify prices rises, as rebranding doesn’t cost nothing. I also think it’s not really newsworthy, unless Island Energy are paying the NPM to put out a press release and orally broadcast this announcement? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Reasons for companies to rebrand Deniability for the past Shocking public perception Greenwashing Of course manx gas themselves say "the new name 'reflects the changing direction of the business to provide customers with choice'." although apart from use it or don't I'm not sure what choice they are referring to. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, manxfisherman said: Reasons for companies to rebrand Deniability for the past Shocking public perception Greenwashing Of course manx gas themselves say "the new name 'reflects the changing direction of the business to provide customers with choice'." although apart from use it or don't I'm not sure what choice they are referring to. What choice? Island Energy have a total monopoly for supplying gas, they can charge - within reason - what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, manxfisherman said: Of course manx gas themselves say "the new name 'reflects the changing direction of the business to provide customers with choice'." although apart from use it or don't I'm not sure what choice they are referring to. the choice to NOT use gas would be a good start, 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Wholesale gas prices up 30% today so expect more price rises soon😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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