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Hartford to build 350 houses on greenfield


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3 hours ago, WTF said:

really difficult to fit a pipe about 2 feet diameter and drop the water straight into the river isn't it.

It is when the river level is above the pipe outfall, part of the reason for rebuilding the Pulrose bridge was to try and alleviate the bottleneck and clear the surges quicker. The trouble with tarmacing and concreting over nearly every square inch of green space within 2 or 3 miles, as well as compacting anything left over, is you lose the natural attentuaion/buffer of ground soaking. Remaining ground saturates quicker and then it can only run off the surface as it has nowhere else to go.

See it time and again with prolonged rainy days, first few days standing water in feilds clears but eventually it forms lakes that last for days or weeks even so then every drop of rain then makes them deeper until they find an alternative way out, usually onto the roads and housing.

 

 

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My last post may seem tongue in cheek but I’m afraid people have a point, sacrifices have to be made, and in particular what can be afforded. It is getting out of hand where the developers wish to build both for small and executive type homes. Why not build more FTB homes in Foxdale or Jurby? Didn’t Daradara saturate the area with homes? Did they sell? If not why not?

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3 minutes ago, James Blonde said:

And drugs raids most weekends.

Then the police have to sort the area out. But it’s no excuse, there is property. Incentive to buy would be for Government and DC to reduce the rates, to encourage new residents. In low demand areas in the UK, some properties are exempt stamp duty. 

Property prices are increasing rapidly in Accrington - 2 -3 bed terraced houses which usually nobody wanted, now in demand. 

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9 minutes ago, 2112 said:

There are cheaper 2/3 bed property on Castle Mona Avenue, and you can’t get more convenient than that...

Most of the houses in Castle Mona Avenue have damp problems because of the run-off from the high bank behind the properties. If it's not visible there's that all-too-familiar musty smell in varying degrees. 

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6 hours ago, TomTucker said:

DEFA on one hand are saying hedges must be preserved and land should be allowed to rewild. This development is the last piece of farmland between Jonny Wattersons and the sea and will flatten many hedges, destroy habitats and fell healthy trees.

DEFA will then of course be responsible for approving the planning application. 

 

Didn't stop Dandara ripping the hedges out at nesting time in Ballasalla... when will people, and particularly our political representatives wake up. Developers don't give a toss about anything but profit, not the countryside, not first time buyers, not quality of life, not green fields or other peoples existing property, JUST PROFIT.

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On 10/11/2021 at 8:55 PM, Noseyparker2090 said:

https://braddanroad.hartford.im/public-consultation/

So Hartford are to build 350 houses with three different new roads to join Ballafletcher, the old Oak tree roundabout and quarterbridge. So many questions, but this strikes me as a horrendous idea for the following initial reasons:

1) building on greenfield in Douglas is completely unnecessary. Aren’t we supposed to be a UNESCO biosphere?

2) imagine how horrendous the traffic is going to be at the oak tree roundabout and quarterbridge - areas which are already very busy without an additional 350 houses needing access

3) the ‘consultation’ by Hartford comes with little detail and interestingly they haven’t yet published the environmental impact survey referred to on the website

4) the issue in the IOM at present is a lack of housing of those looking to buy their first property. This isn’t going to do anything at all to help with that issue. This seems like the exact type of development many MHKs said that they would no longer support

Great to see this has started such a debate, and I see that Hartford have finally published notification of their ‘consultation’ meeting on their Facebook page.
 

I would be interested to know whether any of those who do not support this proposed development have contacted their MHK’s, and if so, what response they have received? Housing and the environment were such topical issues in the election, but was it all just words?

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We need a development tax on these things. 

First time buyers (<£190k) 0% 

Middle (£191k - £350k) 25% 

Luxury (£351k - £750k) 50% 

Super high end (£751k+) 75%

 

It would help focus developers minds on what kind of homes need to be built.

The levy should be applied as a community charge and the proceeds ring-fenced for vital infrastructure, schools and healthcare. 

 

It's literally the only way out of the current situation. 

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18 minutes ago, James Blonde said:

We need a development tax on these things. 

First time buyers (<£190k) 0% 

Middle (£191k - £350k) 25% 

Luxury (£351k - £750k) 50% 

Super high end (£751k+) 75%

 

It would help focus developers minds on what kind of homes need to be built.

The levy should be applied as a community charge and the proceeds ring-fenced for vital infrastructure, schools and healthcare. 

 

It's literally the only way out of the current situation. 

Similar to a stamp duty when you purchase a property. Good idea, and perhaps one to float to your MHK?

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1 hour ago, James Blonde said:

We need a development tax on these things. 

First time buyers (<£190k) 0% 

Middle (£191k - £350k) 25% 

Luxury (£351k - £750k) 50% 

Super high end (£751k+) 75%

 

It would help focus developers minds on what kind of homes need to be built.

The levy should be applied as a community charge and the proceeds ring-fenced for vital infrastructure, schools and healthcare. 

 

It's literally the only way out of the current situation. 

I assume you don’t mean on people’s actual family homes?

50% that you wouldn’t be able to mortgage on a very standard modest family home!!

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2 hours ago, Noseyparker2090 said:

Great to see this has started such a debate, and I see that Hartford have finally published notification of their ‘consultation’ meeting on their Facebook page.

Any chance you could post the details please. Not everyone uses Facebook - maybe that is why Hartford Homes does.

TIA.

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On 10/11/2021 at 10:09 PM, Ramseyboi said:

So you just throw people out of their town houses and built 30 percent the number of houses that people want on the land they free up?

Genius.

Peope don’t want to live in town.  People want moderns houses with Gardens and Hartford know exactly what sells.

Look at Royal Park in Ramsey. It’s massive, exactly what people want, and all sold.

Yes but are they all owner occupied.   No! 

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17 minutes ago, buncha wankas said:

Yes but are they all owner occupied.   No! 

And?

Not everyone wants or is able to buy.

I have rented in the past.  Suited me down to the ground at the time.  No landlords means no rental properties and we need them.  Lots of them.  Have you seen how quickly a decent rental gets snapped up?  People are literally waiting for them to become available 

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