finlo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Wasn't there a survey a couple of years ago that put a certain amount of the population in fuel poverty at that time? Today's vote will surely do nothing to ease that? Fuel poverty is classified as 10% of your income so this should snare a few more. Edited October 19, 2021 by finlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, finlo said: Fuel poverty is classified as 10% of your income so this should share a few more. There were people on the street peacefully protesting outside Tynwald 3 years ago about the price of gas then. Stick 27% on, then add whatever impact it may have on electricity prices too. Add on various cost of living increases for the benefit of living on the Island. Gary Roberts' boys will be getting sized up for serious riot gear by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The developers will only fit gas boilers ! another protectionist racket. Government are good at this sort of stuff, we bought a company for 120m which was probably worth a fraction of that price in a few months, and here's another we are effectively bailing out ! 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, asitis said: The developers will only fit gas boilers ! another protectionist racket. Government are good at this sort of stuff, we bought a company for 120m which was probably worth a fraction of that price in a few months, and here's another we are effectively bailing out ! How are they bailing them out by simply removing a legal restriction on what they are allowed to sell their product for to take into account totally unprecedented international rises in the wholesale price of that product. Bloody hell people love to look for conspiracies and hidden agendas in everything. Is there anywhere in Europe where gas price haven’t been hiked? Is there anywhere in Europe where the gas supplier wasn’t able to just increase the price without having to get it approved by the countries government. Some people really need to give their heads a wobble over this. Personally I would have rather seen whatever government are going to give to assist those deemed to need it straight to Manx Gas so that everyone benefited. So many gas customers with less disposable income than those who qualify for the assistance won’t get any help at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Halsall Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 So did wannaberg vote against this as well as spoiling his CM ballot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: So did wannaberg vote against this as well as spoiling his CM ballot? What's the connection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: What's the connection? If he did then he has lost even more credibility by just going for the public perception of being well meaning, while making no actual useful contribution and showing an inability to make the tough decisions that might be unpopular with the (ill informed) electorate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ramseyboi said: Is there anywhere in Europe where the gas supplier wasn’t able to just increase the price without having to get it approved by the countries government. UK suppliers agreed fixed prices with their customers and those who couldn't honour it have gone bust. I see no justification for the Manx public to bail out Ancala Partners LLP. They were happy to profiteer when gas prices were low. And I don't think you can or should separate the historical profiteering from the current issues with wholesale prices. Edited October 20, 2021 by Ringy Rose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, asitis said: The developers will only fit gas boilers ! another protectionist racket. Government are good at this sort of stuff, we bought a company for 120m which was probably worth a fraction of that price in a few months, and here's another we are effectively bailing out ! And what other option is there? Easy to criticise, less easy to come up with realistic alternatives 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Apparently they will lower the prices as soon as the market drops. Apparently it’s already dropped. Its dropped....a little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Will Halsall said: I hope in this lady ,we are not seeing another version of Rob , where every decision taken in Tynwald is tried to be justified on social media , We elect people to the House of Keys to listen to the evidence and make decisions on our behalf , we don't need a running commentary to try to justify the decision , neither do we need to know what they had for breakfast or require a daily blog , its a turnoff for most constituents ,so please learn from Robs mistakes , 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: UK suppliers agreed fixed prices with their customers and those who couldn't honour it have gone bust. I see no justification for the Manx public to bail out Ancala Partners LLP. They were happy to profiteer when gas prices were low. And I don't think you can or should separate the historical profiteering from the current issues with wholesale prices. Who said they were going to 2bail them out". If they had to, they would have to, or have no gas for the Islands customers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: And what other option is there? Easy to criticise, less easy to come up with realistic alternatives New homes being built at Westhill in Castletown are all being fitted with electric heat pumps. No gas boilers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Wannaburgh did vote against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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