hissingsid Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I hope Michelle Heywood continues to tell her constituents what is going on and why, this way the public will have a better idea of the decisions that are made and it may cut down criticism from people who have heard half the story from Manx Radio or a half baked take from the papers who are only interested in headline fodder. Rob fills people in with all the events that happen in Tynwald and a lot of people are interested if you are not scroll on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Apparently they will lower the prices as soon as the market drops. Apparently it’s already dropped. It’s has dropped from its peak but is still about three times what it was in january. I really can’t get my head around why people think this isn’t necessary. It was investigated by an organisation setup by government who had access to all the info we don’t and who concluded that there isn’t an option and that there was no profiteering going on. I don’t like it anymore than Anyone else, but it is unavoidable Edited October 20, 2021 by Ramseyboi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Layman Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: Let’s see what happens. Don't hold your breath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Who said they were going to 2bail them out". If they had to, they would have to, or have no gas for the Islands customers The MUA get the piped gas here, IEG are very little more than resellers, managing a small domestic piped gas infrastructure. Letting IEG go bump would make little difference to anything, unless you're a partner in Ancala Partners LLP. Shame Tynwald have bowed to the belly aching from the profiteers. I see IEG will "reconsider in six months if wholesale prices fall". Wholesale prices are dropping, they're already 70p/therm below the height. Watch this space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Omobono said: I hope in this lady ,we are not seeing another version of Rob , where every decision taken in Tynwald is tried to be justified on social media , We elect people to the House of Keys to listen to the evidence and make decisions on our behalf , we don't need a running commentary to try to justify the decision , neither do we need to know what they had for breakfast or require a daily blog , its a turnoff for most constituents ,so please learn from Robs mistakes , Rob's mistake was in the content of his blog, not the idea of a blog itself. Rob's was a Pooterish diary of events that happened to him. It was midly interesting once to see a day in a life of an MHK - but every week in such detail was comic. Making occasional blog posts to let constituents know what their thoughts on major issues - explain why they've voted in a particular way is what Rob should have been doing. I also like Stu Peters's plan to do video updates to constituents on the issues that he thinks concerns them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: I really can’t get my head around why people think this isn’t necessary. It was investigated by an organisation setup by government who had access to all the info we don’t and who concluded that there isn’t an option and that there was no profiteering going on. Nobody disputes the wholesale price has shot up. What people dispute is why Ancala Partners LLP should get bailed out when they have been responsible for some of the most egregious profiteering on the island. They were happy to milk the profits when the wholesale gas price was low. The price didn't drop during Covid when wholesale gas prices went through the floor. As always, the profits get privatised and the losses get dumped on the GMP. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Has Alf announced the COMIN comby team of board leaders, departmental members yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Shake me up Judy said: New homes being built at Westhill in Castletown are all being fitted with electric heat pumps. No gas boilers. An interesting point but how does this help to bail out Manx Gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Declan said: Has Alf announced the COMIN comby team of board leaders, departmental members yet. 11th November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 So basically what we've done is send out a strong message to a company that has a long history of profiteering, that they are too important to us to let them go bust! Logic would suggest that their business is going to reduce and eventually disappear in the future with the way climate change policy is going. I bet they can't believe their luck! We already own a fully functioning utility company which no doubt duplicates much of the administration, billing and structure of Manx Gas who, without this government intervention would be almost worthless. We could have nationalised them for next to nothing. As it is a company which would otherwise see profits wither and die due to a move away from fossil fuels now know that the Manx Government have "no option" other than to maintain their profits until the death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: Nobody disputes the wholesale price has shot up. What people dispute is why Ancala Partners LLP should get bailed out when they have been responsible for some of the most egregious profiteering on the island. They were happy to milk the profits when the wholesale gas price was low. The price didn't drop during Covid when wholesale gas prices went through the floor. As always, the profits get privatised and the losses get dumped on the GMP. But that will always be the case. The whole system is modelled on that. The consumer has to pay the price of the gas or the owner would go bust. The owner has to make profit or they go out of business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: An interesting point but how does this help to bail out Manx Gas It's not for Tynwald to bail out Manx Gas, just to protect IOM consumers Energy poverty on the island has to be mitigated by developing an affordable, renewable energy production and storage capacity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Ringy Rose said: The MUA get the piped gas here, IEG are very little more than resellers, managing a small domestic piped gas infrastructure. Letting IEG go bump would make little difference to anything, unless you're a partner in Ancala Partners LLP. Shame Tynwald have bowed to the belly aching from the profiteers. I see IEG will "reconsider in six months if wholesale prices fall". Wholesale prices are dropping, they're already 70p/therm below the height. Watch this space. Or unless you are an employee or customer If they go bust who is going to run the company. The gas would have to go off. How can you say they are just resellers. You clearly haven't a clue. They are not resellers. They run (operate and maintain) the gas network all across the Island. Why don't you do some research before you spout nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, SleepyJoe said: It's not for Tynwald to bail out Manx Gas, just to protect IOM consumers Energy poverty on the island has to be mitigated by developing an affordable, renewable energy production and storage capacity That's correct and I agree completely but it is not going to happen in the next few weeks is it. In the meantime we need the gas or people will become very unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 We do need the gas, we also need a plan for affordable energy from those who put themselves forward for high political office on the IOM Ashford's promise to protect the 'lowest earners' is just bollocks, everyone but the HNW people is going to struggle with ever increasing energy costs Start planning now 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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