James Blonde Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Ironic that given the alleged rising sea levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Max Power said: An interesting article on our virtue signalling performance at the big hug in.... https://fearandloathing2021.wixsite.com/fearandloathingblog/post/never-trust-a-hippy Mildly amusing as ever. However I would suggest that someone who believes that "an ordained trip to Glasgow consisting of boat, train and (presumably) car journeys [...] would have presented a challenge for even the likes of Phileas Fogg to navigate" last used public transport when it involved Viking longships. I reckon it would have been quicker than going by air (as well as cheaper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Mildly amusing as ever. However I would suggest that someone who believes that "an ordained trip to Glasgow consisting of boat, train and (presumably) car journeys [...] would have presented a challenge for even the likes of Phileas Fogg to navigate" last used public transport when it involved Viking longships. I reckon it would have been quicker than going by air (as well as cheaper). Yeah I went to Glasgow last month, boat to Heysham. Train to Lancaster, then train to the centre of Glasgow. Was actually very easy and cheaper than a return flight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just watching a documentary on China. ”in the last three years, China has used more cement than America did in the whole of the 20th Century” and yet there are some who think the Isle of Man can have an impact on climate change 😂 We might as well just enjoy life. Nothing we do will have any impact on anything. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Just watching a documentary on China. ”in the last three years, China has used more cement than America did in the whole of the 20th Century” and yet there are some who think the Isle of Man can have an impact on climate change 😂 We might as well just enjoy life. Nothing we do will have any impact on anything. thats what I worry about when certain Manx politicians state we must be seen to be leading this by example , do what is affordable and practically achievable ,by all means ,watch what the clever countries are doing , and when a cost effective meaningful solution comes along that we can reasonably apply to the isle of Man and our reduction to global warming then implement it , we are never going to be the world leaders in this with No heavy industry and 80,000 people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Just watching a documentary on China. ”in the last three years, China has used more cement than America did in the whole of the 20th Century” and yet there are some who think the Isle of Man can have an impact on climate change 😂 We might as well just enjoy life. Nothing we do will have any impact on anything. Yep, it takes us a whole year to produce what it takes the world just 14 minutes to produce. It's not logical for us to do anyhting but mitigate for rising sea levels and more frequent extreme weather events. Adapt and wait. The trouble is logic doesn't apply, it is all about the feels. The drama. The most effective thing we can do as humans to reduce CO2 is to have one less kid. Use a condom and save the planet. Yep, it takes us a whole year to produce what it takes the world just 14 minutes to produce. It's not logical for us to do anyhting but mitigate for rising sea levels and more frequent extreme weather events. Adapt and wait. And maybe stop buying Chinese products. Tells you all you need to know about China and coal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, Omobono said: thats what I worry about when certain Manx politicians state we must be seen to be leading this by example , do what is affordable and practically achievable ,by all means ,watch what the clever countries are doing , and when a cost effective meaningful solution comes along that we can reasonably apply to the isle of Man and our reduction to global warming then implement it , we are never going to be the world leaders in this with No heavy industry and 80,000 people How very dare you! You'll hurt the feelings of all those hard working prosesters who slaved over the posters, placards and chants for the march. We've all got to give up eating meat, walk to work in all weathers and learn to live with frequent power disruption when the wind don't blow enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Here's some ideas of what could be done now by our globetrotting politicians to show real leadership and good examples that we mean business. We are being asked to make changes to how we live. We will be asked to make sacrifices and no doubt to pay for the privilege. How many will bother if our government don't make their own sacrifices too. The proposed measures below are all easily doable relatively quickly, require no massive investment and would be more than just the hot air we currently suffer. Excess speed produces more carbon. Bring in a 60 mph maximum speed limit for the Island. Stop promoting carbon producing motor sports events, which term includes all the extra fuels burned in all the ancillary activities and knock-on effects. Stop running highly inefficient coal-burning non-essential railways. Introduce energy efficiency into new builds. Insist that all the Parliamentary and Government shindigs take place on-line to avoid all the jolly travel: You know like everyone else has to do. Come on boys and girls of Tynwald, lead the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 How about taxing or even abolishing plastic water bottles, there is nothing wrong with tap water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: How about taxing or even abolishing plastic water bottles, there is nothing wrong with tap water. I quite agree the quality of Manx tap water is far superior than any of that imported into the island , I would suggest the water quality from some of the EU countries , is very inferior , its just not fashionable for people to drink water out of the tap , and when you go out its an opportunity to get you to buy bottled water , unlike America when you go anywhere for a meal the first thing the server does is pour everyone a glass of water ,for free the cost of importing water into the isle of Man must be astronomical ,and a similar cost when dealing with the waste bottles and plastics perhaps our greener government should introduce a bottled water tax , ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, hissingsid said: How about taxing or even abolishing plastic water bottles, there is nothing wrong with tap water. Unless the steampacket accidentaly contaminates it with deisel and sea water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, Omobono said: I quite agree the quality of Manx tap water is far superior than any of that imported into the island , I would suggest the water quality from some of the EU countries , is very inferior , its just not fashionable for people to drink water out of the tap , and when you go out its an opportunity to get you to buy bottled water , unlike America when you go anywhere for a meal the first thing the server does is pour everyone a glass of water ,for free the cost of importing water into the isle of Man must be astronomical ,and a similar cost when dealing with the waste bottles and plastics perhaps our greener government should introduce a bottled water tax , ! Well they don't just import water do they, they also import milk, beer, spirits and fruit juices a lot of which have to be chilled which would greatly increase the carbon footprint. Water is essentail to life so why not target the other non-essential liquids first? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, hissingsid said: How about taxing or even abolishing plastic water bottles, there is nothing wrong with tap water. Maybe where you live. In my house it tastes of chemicals. I drink bottled water for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, CallMeCurious said: Well they don't just import water do they, they also import milk, beer, spirits and fruit juices a lot of which have to be chilled which would greatly increase the carbon footprint. Water is essentail to life so why not target the other non-essential liquids first? Maybe because we have more than enough water here to meet local demand. Can you say the same for Guinness, Orange juice, Pineapple juice..........actually, as I type this I assume you were being funny in some way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Cambon said: Maybe where you live. In my house it tastes of chemicals. I drink bottled water for that reason. You should get your pipes checked or install a filter. There is zero need for bottled water over here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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