Danoo Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, John Wright said: Most, if not all, of the things it covers are caught by bribery, fraud, etc offences already. Lots of people seem to think it covers incompetence and could be used to rein in incompetent or negligent politicians and civil servants. But incompetence and poor decision making aren’t criminal and shouldn’t be made so. Different methods of holding to account are needed for those. So what is covered by the criminal courts under misconduct in the UK that isn't covered here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, Danoo said: So what is covered by the criminal courts under misconduct in the UK that isn't covered here? i would think you could get done for something here, not face misconduct charges and carry on regardless, in England the misconduct conviction may cost you your position/job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 So basically, anyone involved in governmental corruption in any way over here just needs to be able to pass it off as total incompetence instead. Who'd have thought 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 There are many rugs with lumps under them here ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: So basically, anyone involved in governmental corruption in any way over here just needs to be able to pass it off as total incompetence instead. Who'd have thought See MEA loans etc for details? Edited October 27, 2021 by Barlow 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 So, what happened this morning? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said: So basically, anyone involved in governmental corruption in any way over here just needs to be able to pass it off as total incompetence instead. Who'd have thought Just deny all knowledge and move to another Govt Dept? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) On a not unrelated matter, with a bit of a queue jump, Howard and Will are up in court tomorrow: Edited October 31, 2021 by Barlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barlow said: On a not unrelated matter, with a bit of a queue jump, Howard and Will are up in court tomorrow: Think thats to do with returning back to the IOM when they instigated the lockdown and banged him and his wife into Comis and charged them . Edited October 31, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Is that Geoffrey Allen, one time police officer? Yes , and his wife was too . Edited October 31, 2021 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Good I hope he wins. So do I and if he does it will open the floodgates for the others locked up to take their case to court. Edited October 31, 2021 by Numbnuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Think thats to do with returning back to the IOM when they instigated the lockdown and banged him and his wife into Comis and charged them . Doubt it will be successful as Uk, Ireland, Australia have all been doing the same and as far as I know no one has successfully challenged the mandatory quarantine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhumsaa Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Banker said: Doubt it will be successful as Uk, Ireland, Australia have all been doing the same and as far as I know no one has successfully challenged the mandatory quarantine I know it's not this simple but the choice to come back to the island on the terms offered was one made voluntarily 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: So do I and if he does it will open the floodgates for the others locked up to take their case to court. which is why the state won't let them win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Banker said: Doubt it will be successful as Uk, Ireland, Australia have all been doing the same and as far as I know no one has successfully challenged the mandatory quarantine It will depend on how they wrote the regulations and when they passed and implemented them. It's not whether governments in general have the right to take these sort of measures - they do for public safety reasons. It's whether the Manx government did so competently and reasonably. Which may be more of a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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