Zarley Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Clearly there needs to be a clearout and will be more than interesting how the Chief Secretary feels about his minions being shown the door. ... Mind blowing that many have winged it for so long I'm sure protected by Will Greenhow . He needs to be shown the door as well. He'd be first in line if I had my way. Two debacles that spring to mind are the recent census, and the handling of the Roberts Report. Not to mention all the other failures that have happened on his watch. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Yes agree a new culture needs a new CEO and it also needs new people in a variety of senior positions. That needs to be done before they even look at structure. It also needs to be made clear that anyone hoofed out won’t be coming back as a consultant (not even as a £10 an hour relief bus or tram driver in Black & Longworths case) at any time. Most of these individuals are toxic and dealing with them in a weak way will just leave the door open to future toxic meddling. How is the investigation going into the derailment? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gladys said: How is the investigation going into the derailment? it's been derailed to avoid embarrassment 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 i do wonder these days IF the actual knowledge is there within the DOI to actually do a proper job if penny pinching wasn't a factor. the fact that the shore road/gansey had to be redone by contractors from the UK using the local machinery and got a good finish , makes you wonder why the local crews couldn't get a good finish with the same equipment ???? are the locals boots on the ground that poorly trained ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I wonder which politician will have the balls to put their name on the 'Prom Opening Plaque' ? ( if they're not all dead by then! ). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, Kopek said: I wonder which politician will have the balls to put their name on the 'Prom Opening Plaque' ? ( if they're not all dead by then! ). Howard Quayle - he likes official openings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Stick the promenade plaque a few yards from the Bee Gees and ask the mason to just carve TRAGEDY on it. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, 2112 said: Howard Quayle - he likes official openings I never knew it was official? I thought it was just an affair? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, WTF said: i do wonder these days IF the actual knowledge is there within the DOI to actually do a proper job if penny pinching wasn't a factor. the fact that the shore road/gansey had to be redone by contractors from the UK using the local machinery and got a good finish , makes you wonder why the local crews couldn't get a good finish with the same equipment ???? are the locals boots on the ground that poorly trained ?? They used to be able to do a good job? Brandish corner for instance? The problem may be that the good guys retired (or got pissed off with a system that was evolving to suit incompetents and left) and were never replaced; or if they were, the incompetents appointed people in their own image - or cronies. Either way, the skills to undertake the bigger jobs, and some of the smaller ones, don't seem to be available any more? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The real villain of the piece in all this, and the first person who should be in AC’s cross hairs, is the Chief Secretary, Will Greenhow. He is the line manager to Black and the other CEO’s. He has a allowed a culture of mediocrity and incompetence to flourish. He has protected people like Black, Longworth, Reynolds and Robinson from the realities of their poor performance. Black may depart with a DoI wheelbarrow full of cash, but as long as Greenhow survives the Island will have a second rate public service, built on cronyism, self preservation, and sense of entitlement, and where the tax payer and the customer will be well down the priorities. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 How long has Will Greengrass been at the helm..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, quilp said: How long has Will Greengrass been at the helm..? well we're hitting more icebergs than the titanic and sinking faster. Edited October 30, 2021 by WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Nellie said: He has a allowed a culture of mediocrity and incompetence to flourish. He has protected people like Black, Longworth, Reynolds and Robinson from the realities of their poor performance. Such people can be useful if you're trying not to leave yourself exposed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, Nellie said: The real villain of the piece in all this, and the first person who should be in AC’s cross hairs, is the Chief Secretary, Will Greenhow. He is the line manager to Black and the other CEO’s. He has a allowed a culture of mediocrity and incompetence to flourish. He has protected people like Black, Longworth, Reynolds and Robinson from the realities of their poor performance. Black may depart with a DoI wheelbarrow full of cash, but as long as Greenhow survives the Island will have a second rate public service, built on cronyism, self preservation, and sense of entitlement, and where the tax payer and the customer will be well down the priorities. That really sums it up. Organisations tend to replicate the leadership, but here we have a leader who does not lead the service. Will Greenhow could walk the corridors of the Civil Service, outside of Cabinet Office and not be recognised by the vast majority of those who he is supposed to be leading. Invisibility is not part of any successful Leader's skill-set. Let's not forget either, that the Chief Secretary was a significant person in the appointment of incompetent CEOs like Black at DoI. It is the Chief Secretary who line manages and protects the CEOs and reports on their performance to the CM. In all these respects he has been sadly lacking but getting hugely rewarded with taxpayer cash. What was his experience before joining the Civil Service here? I don't know but I suspect it didn't involve leading any large organisation. He is the product of the cosy appointments made in the IOM public sector and the chief protector of that culture. If Alf Cannan wants to bring about real change in the way our public service is run, he needs to embark on a process of change at the top and work down. I, like many others who wish him to succeed, will await developments with interest. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The effective statement that "certain people" (shall we say) can't be relied upon to give "accurate" information to their ministers speaks volumes too. In man-in-street language, lying, self-serving tw@ts. This release has been building for a while though IMHO, albeit far too long. The evidence has been released in dribs and drabs, from the ongoing Promenade debacle to the revelation earlier this year that the minibuses purchase had no prior sanction, to the Budget statement that the credit card was being cut up. It's taken a year or more but it's finally coming. Maybe Alf has what it takes - shame it's taken so long but Govt wheels do turn slowly at the best of times. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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