Health

[Will Halsall]

On 11/4/2021 at 9:14 PM, wrighty said:

Calories on food labels are worked out by literally setting fire to the food and measuring the heat output. 
 

Absorption depends a lot on gut bacteria too.  I’ve not yet finished reading the book, but the author was on R4’s The Life Scientific last week. A diverse gut microbiome is the way to go, and you get that by consuming 30 different plants per week, which is not as hard as it sounds when you realise all sorts of nuts and seeds count too (but probably not cabernet, merlot, shiraz etc, unfortunately)

Cheers Wrighty, had a good listen to that this morning (ironically, I was cooking a full Manx at the time), really interesting and informative, I recommend posters have a good listen to that:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0010pv0

[hissingsid]

I think there are a lot more over 65s lonely than it shows on that graph but they are too proud to admit it and just get on with it because that is how they were brought up.

[Ramseyboi]

10 minutes ago, Will Halsall said:

Hey Superciliousboi, I happen to be very good friends with one of the gentleman in that photo (certainly not Wannanburgh), and this gentleman does an enormous amount of wonderful work for the community.  Are you suggesting that only Aryan people of the Master Race should be photographed presenting money to charities such as these?

No.  I am suggesting that it would be nice if people in positions where they should be expected to be setting a good example in many areas of life looked after themselves and weren’t likely to become an unnecessary drain on the health service.

I hesitate to say it but if you look at private business on the island, and there will obviously be some exceptions, an awful lot of the CEOS and other senior staff are much healthier than they would have been had you looked around a board table 20 years ago.  The same change doesn’t seem to have applied to our politicians - which is a shame.

[Will Halsall]

5 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

No.  I am suggesting that it would be nice if people in positions where they should be expected to be setting a good example in many areas of life looked after themselves and weren’t likely to become an unnecessary drain on the health service.

 

Superciliousboy,

When you say ‘No’ (above) in answer to:

Are you suggesting that only Aryan people of the Master Race should be photographed presenting money to charities such as these?

What you actually mean is: ‘It would be nice if mostly Aryan people of the Master Race would be photographed presenting money to charities such as these?

[Danoo]

1 minute ago, Ramseyboi said:

No.  I am suggesting that it would be nice if people in positions where they should be expected to be setting a good example in many areas of life looked after themselves and weren’t likely to become an unnecessary drain on the health service.

I hesitate to say it but if you look at private business on the island, and there will obviously be some exceptions, an awful lot of the CEOS and other senior staff are much healthier than they would have been had you looked around a board table 20 years ago.  The same change doesn’t seem to have applied to our politicians - which is a shame.

Politicians on the island, by the very nature of our unique situation here, tend to attract people who couldn't and wouldn't get anywhere near the levels in the corporate world that you mention.

The pay on offer, for a kick off, means most of above average intelligence wouldn't get out of bed for the remuneration package on offer, meaning you get individuals who have a similar level of enthusiasm for their physical wellbeing as they do for their career aspirations. As you mention there will be exceptions but as a generalisation looking around at the current and last crop it appears to hold some validity. 

[AcousticallyChallenged]

15 hours ago, CallMeCurious said:

Wow, didn't realise it was such a high figure.

It may be a small thing but have you ever tried to meet with friends after 6pm here? Most adults will be working during weekdays and maybe weekends depending on their job.

All the cafe's are closed and unless you want to fork out for a meal somewhere then pubs and bars are the only alternative. And if you are under 18 even that alternative isn't a legal option. In summer, you can go for a walk and talk but midwinter what is there?

When the pubs are in decline, maybe it's time one or two of them tried an alternative. Or a cafe adds a few hours.

I also feel (much like we really ought to swap the names of credit and debit cards to reflect their true nature) we ought to rename 'social' media as asocial media. I see it all the time, couples and families sat glued to a screen while they sit having a coffee. Young kids more engaged with the games than the family and friends around them.

I look at the chart above and wonder if the high numbers on the left are as much a consequence of the millenials who've grown up with this technoculture.

There are artisan dessert places in the UK doing a roaring trade, catering to those who don't drink, don't want to be in the pub, but want an opportunity to socialise with nice non-alcoholic drinks and a nice dessert.

Very popular amongst young Muslims especially.

Though, I can see why it'd be hard to sustain over here by comparison.

[CallMeCurious]

18 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

There are artisan dessert places in the UK doing a roaring trade, catering to those who don't drink, don't want to be in the pub, but want an opportunity to socialise with nice non-alcoholic drinks and a nice dessert.

Very popular amongst young Muslims especially.

Though, I can see why it'd be hard to sustain over here by comparison.

And yet the pubs are in decline. Strange that.

[Ramseyboi]

I am not convinced of the merits of active travel given our climate, but anyway.

I give you, the first far probing question from one of our newly elected heroes who are here to save the island by thinking strategically and really identify some pertinent issues and identifying long term benefits for us all 😂

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/active-travel-spending-unfair-on-motorists/?fbclid=IwAR2fWbt9gmGuSd9WfuEaydGz5d8XLh3I1gaVjiDSG9CDTjy3JpS-tbYGYCs

[Ramseyboi]

This years survey is now available.

Seriously, who writes these things?

I was interested enough to start a thread about last years and lost the will to live before giving up on this one!!  Who do they think is actively going to find this and then answer all those stupid questions???

https://www.gov.im/healthandlifestylesurvey

[hampsterkahn]

I did the survey.

Yes, it is a bit ponderous.

The topics and type of questions will,I suspect produce figures giving percentages who drink more than a certain amount, are overweight, eat little fruit and veg, walk or cycle little and and are socially isolated and unhappy and that Covid had a bad impact on everyone.

There will be a comparison with other populations.

The bottom line will be about “ healthy life choices “, or similar  phraseology - Do less of these things - for  they are bad things, and bad for you to do.

-Do more of these things - for they are good things, and good for you to do.

[Danoo]

2 hours ago, hampsterkahn said:

I did the survey.

Yes, it is a bit ponderous.

The topics and type of questions will,I suspect produce figures giving percentages who drink more than a certain amount, are overweight, eat little fruit and veg, walk or cycle little and and are socially isolated and unhappy and that Covid had a bad impact on everyone.

There will be a comparison with other populations.

The bottom line will be about “ healthy life choices “, or similar  phraseology - Do less of these things - for  they are bad things, and bad for you to do.

-Do more of these things - for they are good things, and good for you to do.

So essentially a waste of time then, but ticks the box of appearing to do something productive.

[HeliX]

12 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

This years survey is now available.

Seriously, who writes these things?

I was interested enough to start a thread about last years and lost the will to live before giving up on this one!!  Who do they think is actively going to find this and then answer all those stupid questions???

https://www.gov.im/healthandlifestylesurvey

Took about 10 minutes.

[doc.fixit]

3 hours ago, hampsterkahn said:

I did the survey.

Yes, it is a bit ponderous.

The topics and type of questions will,I suspect produce figures giving percentages who drink more than a certain amount, are overweight, eat little fruit and veg, walk or cycle little and and are socially isolated and unhappy and that Covid had a bad impact on everyone.

There will be a comparison with other populations.

The bottom line will be about “ healthy life choices “, or similar  phraseology - Do less of these things - for  they are bad things, and bad for you to do.

-Do more of these things - for they are good things, and good for you to do.

Either save them cash or make cash for them?

[Ramseyboi]

1 hour ago, HeliX said:

Took about 10 minutes.

Exactly.  The majority of people won’t bother

[Cambon]

5 hours ago, hampsterkahn said:

I did the survey.

Yes, it is a bit ponderous.

The topics and type of questions will,I suspect produce figures giving percentages who drink more than a certain amount, are overweight, eat little fruit and veg, walk or cycle little and and are socially isolated and unhappy and that Covid had a bad impact on everyone.

There will be a comparison with other populations.

The bottom line will be about “ healthy life choices “, or similar  phraseology - Do less of these things - for  they are bad things, and bad for you to do.

-Do more of these things - for they are good things, and good for you to do.

I found it rather negative. As if trying to create issues. I walk a lot. I don't cycle. Nothing about going to gymn, swimming, etc. 

On about fruit and veg, what about nuts and seeds? Low carb? 

Very poor.