Health

[Danoo]

20 hours ago, Cambon said:

I agree with most of what you have said. Healthy food is no more expensive than cheap processed food. However, bread is generally high in salt, and pasta can be once cooked. Cheese is an ideal low carb snack. 

Red Meat is something that everyone should have, but in moderation. 

 

Yes. We have really been brainwashed by the climate and health fanatics when it comes to red meat. Good quality red meat is a must for everyone, it gives the body what nothing else does. Organ meats are among the most nutritious foods on the planet.  

[the stinking enigma]

I'm certainly not going to argue with an organ eating expert

[quilp]

I'm struggling to eat the last of the Hammond. 

[Barlow]

This thread is like a Simpsons episode. Where the cows go to cow university:

 

[Cambon]

15 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

@quilp being “confused” by this post, is the biggest indication of the difference between people genuinely struggling and people who have always had life on a plate I have ever seen.

What is confusing?  That is how some people live.

Maybe, but not all of the 67% who are the problem. Not by a very, very long way. 

[Ramseyboi]

Just now, Cambon said:

Maybe, but not all of the 67% who are the problem. Not by a very, very long way. 

Agreed, but for some it is a factor.

Even the subsequent posts about how cheap a particular cheese is in Shoprite, assumes you can get to shoprite.

Not happing if you are in Jurby and can’t afford the bus fare (5.40 return to Ramsey) so you are in Catch 22 and have to pay the prices at the local convenience store.

The less you have the more you pay for things unfortunately.  The luxury of cheap batch cooking isn’t available to you.  The discounts associated with a contract phone aren’t available to you.  The discounts of electricity by direct debit rather than a key etc etc.

Society is backwards sometimes. The people who need the help are the ones paying more.

[the stinking enigma]

Have you had a bang on the head jeeves?

[Ramseyboi]

8 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

Have you had a bang on the head jeeves?

Is Jeeves some hilarious joke that is passing me by?  Why a butler reference?

[AcousticallyChallenged]

32 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said:

Society is backwards sometimes. The people who need the help are the ones paying more.

It's expensive to be poor, Terry Pratchett sums it up incredibly well.

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The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes Boots’ theory of socioeconomic unfairness

 

[Andy Onchan]

3 hours ago, Peter Layman said:

Thank heavens for spaminals

 

You can tell it's Friday! 

[quilp]

5 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

Agreed, but for some it is a factor.

Even the subsequent posts about how cheap a particular cheese is in Shoprite, assumes you can get to shoprite.

Not happing if you are in Jurby and can’t afford the bus fare (5.40 return to Ramsey) so you are in Catch 22 and have to pay the prices at the local convenience store.

The less you have the more you pay for things unfortunately.  The luxury of cheap batch cooking isn’t available to you.  The discounts associated with a contract phone aren’t available to you.  The discounts of electricity by direct debit rather than a key etc etc.

Society is backwards sometimes. The people who need the help are the ones paying more.

Hey Boi, Why do you have to keep pointing this out?

You've covered the problem, what's the solution?

Either you have had a bang to the head or you're just trolling for attention.

[Ramseyboi]

8 minutes ago, quilp said:

what's the solution

A better benefits system that isn't so black and white (computer says no!!) and involves actual people looking at actual other peoples actual circumstances and giving them some actual assistance at a time when they actually need it.

Not more money for the long term who just cant be arsed and wont ever change, but more help for those who genuinely fall on really hard times and need a leg up to get them back on track. 

Help them get back on track by giving them a bit more than the bare minimum and they are more likely to get back into good health and working again in a reasonable timeframe at which point they become contributing members of society again rather than a long term drain on the system.  Money for retraining. Money to eat well and stay healthy - that sort of thing.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Ramseyboi

[pongo]

21 hours ago, quilp said:

Don't lecture me on the in's and out's of poverty, mean streets and existential despair. Been there, done that, wore the stolen t-shirt. Unlike you, I don't wear it like a fucking medal. 

Yep.

Don't be fooled by the rocks that he got
He's still, he's still Quilp from the block

[Cambon]

8 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

Agreed, but for some it is a factor.

Even the subsequent posts about how cheap a particular cheese is in Shoprite, assumes you can get to shoprite.

Not happing if you are in Jurby and can’t afford the bus fare (5.40 return to Ramsey) so you are in Catch 22 and have to pay the prices at the local convenience store.

The less you have the more you pay for things unfortunately.  The luxury of cheap batch cooking isn’t available to you.  The discounts associated with a contract phone aren’t available to you.  The discounts of electricity by direct debit rather than a key etc etc.

Society is backwards sometimes. The people who need the help are the ones paying more.

Agreed, but many of those same people cannot live without the latest iPhone, with unlimited contract, daily fags, ultimate Sky, and a hidden motorhome. 

Sorry, little compassion. For a few, yes. 

[HeliX]

14 hours ago, Cambon said:

Agreed, but many of those same people cannot live without the latest iPhone, with unlimited contract, daily fags, ultimate Sky, and a hidden motorhome. 

Sorry, little compassion. For a few, yes. 

Hardly any of those people actually exist. They're a figment of tabloids/The Times imagination.