doc.fixit Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Gladys said: The Peel Piwer Station designed to supply nearby house from its 'waste" heat. It featured on Tomorrow's World. Does it actually do that still? How many houses was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: Does it actually do that still? How many houses was it? It was the terrace of tiny houses for the station staff maybe ten topps, it probably still functions but I don't think the plant runs much if at all now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Hmm, not much in comparison to a whole city! What does the incinerator provide in waste heat usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, doc.fixit said: Hmm, not much in comparison to a whole city! What does the incinerator provide in waste heat usage? Big plumes over the Douglas skyline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 It was said when it was built there would be no visible plume! Thought that might be a rubbish statement at the time. ( unintentional pun but I liked it) 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: Sorry about that. Chips and mushy peas for me tonight from Port Jack. Better from the Trawlerman, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Sooorrrry!🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 After the fireworks night I doubt the Trawlerman had any fish left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:36 PM, CallMeCurious said: A cable with full capcaity would be a good idea and keep Pulrose as a backup. Win win. The cable does have full capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: What's the expected lifespan of the Richmond Hill incinerator now and when's it up for decommissioning ? Would it pass current or future carbon emission standards and tests ? What's the plan and the cost after that ? I think it had a 30 year design life. It is actually pretty good on emissions with modern scrubbers etc. There is no standard for CO2 though as it not a controlled pollutant and would be almost impossible to remove without making the whole process unviable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Friend of ours works in Peel power station. I was surprised just how much electricity we sell to the UK grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The cable does have full capacity. Nope. 65MW cable https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/climate-change-plan-2022-2027/supporting_documents/Isle of Man Future Energy Scenarios Executive Summary.pdf New interconnector = 140MW cable and possibly a 2nd one 4 options & 1 wish 1: 1 x 140MW interconnector & 39MW local biomass (20% on island generation) = £1.49bn 2: 2 x 140MW interconnectors & 64MW local biomass (8% on island generation) = £1.4bn 3: 1 x 140MW interconnector & 64MW local biomass (9% on island generation) = £1.07bn 4: 3 x 70MW interconnectors & refurbish 1 x existing 65MW interconnector (58% on island generation) = £1.8bn 5: 700-800MW off-shore windfarm £ unpriced but >> £2.bn We need N-2 (Option 4) to give the greatest resilience for the simple reason that as heating and transport become electricity dependent, we must have reliability. Best part is page 14 the plan ahead Carbon tax comes into force. First few hydrogen refuelling stations built to service public transport and HGVs Start biomaterial production and storage https://www.manxutilities.im/media/1964/manx-utilities-annual-report-2019-20-v11.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I used to do some work for a guy with a steel factory in Africa. He bought some scrap from the military and when it went into the furnace to be melted down, the whole thing blew up and killed several people. Turns out there were discarded munitions in the scrap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, CallMeCurious said: Nope. 65MW cable https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/climate-change-plan-2022-2027/supporting_documents/Isle of Man Future Energy Scenarios Executive Summary.pdf New interconnector = 140MW cable and possibly a 2nd one 4 options & 1 wish 1: 1 x 140MW interconnector & 39MW local biomass (20% on island generation) = £1.49bn 2: 2 x 140MW interconnectors & 64MW local biomass (8% on island generation) = £1.4bn 3: 1 x 140MW interconnector & 64MW local biomass (9% on island generation) = £1.07bn 4: 3 x 70MW interconnectors & refurbish 1 x existing 65MW interconnector (58% on island generation) = £1.8bn 5: 700-800MW off-shore windfarm £ unpriced but >> £2.bn We need N-2 (Option 4) to give the greatest resilience for the simple reason that as heating and transport become electricity dependent, we must have reliability. Best part is page 14 the plan ahead Carbon tax comes into force. First few hydrogen refuelling stations built to service public transport and HGVs Start biomaterial production and storage https://www.manxutilities.im/media/1964/manx-utilities-annual-report-2019-20-v11.pdf If you read it fully you will see that the new cable(s) is for N-1 redundancy. The current single cable has enough capacity for current demand but insufficient resilience and not enough capacity if electricity demand rises due to the end of gas/oil and also EVs. The power station is often off and the island sits on the existing interconnection. The issue is that even interconnectors are not 100% reliable and therefore if we only had the one we have got we couldn't 1. Manage without the power station as back up 2. Take more renewable energy in the form of electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 hours ago, cheesypeas said: Friend of ours works in Peel power station. I was surprised just how much electricity we sell to the UK grid. The joke though is that I believe the power we do sell to the Grid comes from the old oil-fired machinery (at Peel and the back-up at Pulrose), not from the newer gas-turbines. The older kit is quicker to start up and the less the lead-in time, the more you can sell the power at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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