Roger Mexico Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Declan said: So 6 months after the General Election the governing party will agree its manifesto. Well if they do it in February it will be five months, but it's worth pointing out that the Government are basically trying to pull a fast one on this and the MHKs were perfectly correct to object. As discussed at the start of this topic, back in November they issued a draft 24-page Island Plan, with not very much in it except buzzwords and Very Big Photos. There was some discussion and it was assumed that a more detailed document would emerge for consideration fairly soon. Then nothing, Last Thursday a press release appears announcing the Plan. It was a very strange press release because none of the media seem to have reported it - not even 3FM who normal reproduce every press release word for word. Presumably it was a press release that wasn't released to the press, just stuck up on the website. Avid Tynwald watchers presumably pricked up the appearance of a supplementary order paper - normally this is restricted to stuff that has to be done quickly (such as Covid changes), and there was some there, but the Plan was also hidden there. Now stuff for debate in Tynwald is supposed to be published at least six weeks in advance so that Members and the public have time to read and consider and Members can consider possible amendments and so on. Even if people noticed this straight away they only had four days. And it's not as if there were just a few minor changes to the draft. Instead the 24 pages had expanded to 70 filled with detail (plus some photos but even more buzzwords). Clearly it was hoped to push the whole thing through with warm words but with the details unexamined. Tynwald was right to object - we've seen this sort of scam before. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I've read some of it, it is very heavy on "buzz words" and very light on the 'SMART' type measurements ! Wholly right that our elected should study it in depth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Halsall Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/cannan-suprising-mhks-couldnt-digest-island-plan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, asitis said: I've read some of it, it is very heavy on "buzz words" and very light on the 'SMART' type measurements ! Wholly right that our elected should study it in depth. An A level business studies student knows the classic strategic plan framework - a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats) analysis followed by strategies that meet the SMART objectives (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time-based). If it ain't got them, it is an aspiration not a plan. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Roger - September, October, November, December, January, February Edited January 19, 2022 by Declan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Well if they do it in February it will be five months, but it's worth pointing out that the Government are basically trying to pull a fast one on this and the MHKs were perfectly correct to object. As discussed at the start of this topic, back in November they issued a draft 24-page Island Plan, with not very much in it except buzzwords and Very Big Photos. There was some discussion and it was assumed that a more detailed document would emerge for consideration fairly soon. Then nothing, Last Thursday a press release appears announcing the Plan. It was a very strange press release because none of the media seem to have reported it - not even 3FM who normal reproduce every press release word for word. Presumably it was a press release that wasn't released to the press, just stuck up on the website. Avid Tynwald watchers presumably pricked up the appearance of a supplementary order paper - normally this is restricted to stuff that has to be done quickly (such as Covid changes), and there was some there, but the Plan was also hidden there. Now stuff for debate in Tynwald is supposed to be published at least six weeks in advance so that Members and the public have time to read and consider and Members can consider possible amendments and so on. Even if people noticed this straight away they only had four days. And it's not as if there were just a few minor changes to the draft. Instead the 24 pages had expanded to 70 filled with detail (plus some photos but even more buzzwords). Clearly it was hoped to push the whole thing through with warm words but with the details unexamined. Tynwald was right to object - we've seen this sort of scam before. It's good to see that MHK's are not letting the Government push through items at 4 days notice. Not sure what Cannan was hoping to achieve. They have missed the six week deadline for February so they will have to vote again on whether to take it in the sitting. Given members will have had more time to consider it I suspect it won't be voted down this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, Gladys said: An A level business studies student knows the classic strategic plan framework - a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats) analysis followed by strategies that meet the SMART objectives (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time-based). If it ain't got them, it is an aspiration not a plan. It is a Alf and COMIN mess from the start. If he couldn’t get his first major set piece of ‘work of fiction’ passed, he is going to find it hard going to to get other legislation through. Next month (February 2022) the budget is due, one can only hope they get that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: It's good to see that MHK's are not letting the Government push through items at 4 days notice. Not sure what Cannan was hoping to achieve. They have missed the six week deadline for February so they will have to vote again on whether to take it in the sitting. Given members will have had more time to consider it I suspect it won't be voted down this time. Learning from ex CM Quayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Gladys said: An A level business studies student knows the classic strategic plan framework - a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats) analysis followed by strategies that meet the SMART objectives (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time-based). If it ain't got them, it is an aspiration not a plan. It's only ever an aspiration, for any administration. And when has there ever been a real critique of what has been achieved out of any administration's set objectives? Rarely, if ever. It's all wing and prayer stuff with huge amounts of back-slapping when it goes right and silence or, at best, deflection and excuses when it doesn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: It's only ever an aspiration, for any administration. And when has there ever been a real critique of what has been achieved out of any administration's set objectives? Rarely, if ever. It's all wing and prayer stuff with huge amounts of back-slapping when it goes right and silence or, at best, deflection and excuses when it doesn't. Aye the "Vision 2020" stuff soon went South after approval (3 years I think). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Discussion between Thomas & Hooper on Twitter on plan , difference of opinion Edited January 19, 2022 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 11/11/2021 at 8:29 AM, Declan said: Two months after the election, the governing party releases it's manifesto. A ludicrous situation High time the Chief Minister was put in office on a platform chosen by a majority of the electorate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) vision2020-leaflet.pdf (gov.im) The 2013 waffle/plan. Wonder if anyone ever analysed its conjectures.... Edited January 19, 2022 by b4mbi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Given some of the choices they have made in respect of M.H.Ks that could be well dodgy. I fear this Government is going to be a five year disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Opposition led by Watterson & Glover! https://gef.im/2022/01/18/cannans-surprise-as-mhks-block-island-plan-debate/?fbclid=IwAR1-POMWAcjuUFi-CWP6--l7kL3NlWSh_mdy72SLQ19UryAI-LrObSvgIz0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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