finlo Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, NoTailT said: To be fair, the planners didn’t follow their own rules and standing orders in the Newsons saga from what I’ve heard and it’s all going to come out in the wash. More likely to become another lump in the lumpy carpet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, finlo said: More likely to become another lump in the lumpy carpet! Depends how far Kelproperties want to take it I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 10 hours ago, NoTailT said: it’s all going to come out in the wash. When does the spin cycle start? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 After we've been rinsed... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 38 minutes ago, quilp said: After we've been rinsed... And hung out to dry? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 That creased me up 😄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Don't worry, it'll all be ironed out in the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: 3 hours ago, quilp said: That creased me up 😄 6 hours ago, Two-lane said: When does the spin cycle start? Don't worry, it'll all be ironed out in the end. Fuck sakes. Stop it, you'll have my ticker going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Agreed, the puns have been through the wringer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just now, quilp said: Agreed, the puns have been through the wringer. Dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, manxfisherman said: The advantage of the MDC is that they could develop something the island actually needs whereas commercial developers build things that sell. Sorry for the long post but I am off out and needed to say it all at once 🙂 I have a very simple rule of thumb regarding our islands government's "policy's" I look around the near islands and look around the wider worlds first world countries. Can we find a similar government owned and funded (Forget the arms length bull, its a gov department staffed by civil servants) entity that is doing the same sort of property development ??? NO YOU CAN'T I stand to be corrected but I Can't find a similar funded organisation with the same goals ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD It may not be in competition with the big developers on the island, at the moment, but if it develops as normal gov departments do - expand to justify more staff, more budget and a bigger ego for some higher CS, then it will at some point piss off the developers. As I said earlier in this thread, these brownfield sites, that no one wants to develop, are only not being developed because the gov/ landowners/ manx establishment/ think they are worth far more than they are. The MDC, LOOKS LIKE A WAY OF GETTING CERTAIN LANDOWNERS IN BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP FAR MORE MONEY FOR THEIR LAND THAN IT IS ACTUALLY WORTH. Calling @ChrisThomas, Please explain why a "vibrant economy" like the IOM's is needs to resort to government run and bottomless funded departments to develop Brownfield sites? In the UK such sites are either gifted or gifted with funds to develop to the private sector from local authority/ councils and the like. That works and it stops things like the old summerland site sitting like a bomb site for decades, same with the old bus station site, same with the old prison site etc etc etc etc @Chris Thomas, why do you think a bunch of people in the CS with no commercial experience of property development, never mind actual building, will be able to do this better than the likes of Dandara, Hartford, Kell Properties and the like????? Sorry again for the long post, I am off out Edited October 1, 2022 by Boris Johnson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Sorry for the long post but I am off out and needed to say it all at once 🙂 I have a very simple rule of thumb regarding our islands government's "policy's" I look around the near islands and look around the wider worlds first world countries. Can we find a similar government owned and funded (Forget the arms length bull, its a gov department staffed by civil servants) entity that is doing the same sort of property development ??? NO YOU CAN'T I stand to be corrected but I Can't find a similar funded organisation with the same goals ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD Except you can. Not so far away. You are corrected. https://www.jerseydevelopment.je Projects done in last 10 years. https://indd.adobe.com/view/183f18e6-0701-408d-a13f-02536a3c59c9 Edited October 1, 2022 by offshoremanxman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 It's in the KPMG recommendations that brownfield sites be developed as an economic contributor Whether we need a glamour outfit like MDC to do it is moot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Shock! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Gosh yes, what a shock! Put the site up for sale after losing a planning application, they must have been so disheartened! Having slept on te matter, they've decided to appeal and fight on for the multi million development!!! 😈 They must have found some green paint to match the old Newsons colours!!! 🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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