SleepyJoe Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Doesn't appear to be any agreement between applicant's engineers & those appointed by DEFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Contradictory it seems. Someone said they were required. Then someone else said they weren't. After they had already been put up. But in the overall scheme of things that's irrelevant anyway isn't it. Its a pile of old crap that needs knocking down. Whether its going to fall down and kill someone is irrelevant it seems. It could be a case of my structural engineer is better than yours. The fact is no one wants it. Its an eyesore. Trying to make a silk purse out this sows ear will be financially non viable. Lets start again from new 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: "He [the representative from MNH] expressed disappointment with the unadventurous design of the proposed replacement, expressing that in such a site, a more imaginative approach should be taken" That, in one sentence, is why the island is Fuc8ed. You can't win as a developer, the proposed plans shown on here look to me, and I would guess most reasonable minded individuals, a pretty sympathetic replacement to the original pile of crap that is there - without the crinkly tin overcladding, that keeps out rain and the "period" aluminium roll up shutters in the loading bays........ So the planners want something more imaginative? Like what?, Like a full glass mirrored facade with a spire like the London Shard? That would be shot down too. This type of shit costs money, a lot of money and really turns off people with money wanting to develop here. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Ashford saying on Mannin line he’s in favour of reviewing planning process including the limit of 3 minutes on applicants speaking whereas others can speak for an hour or more. Also he wasn’t in post in time to chair meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Banker said: Also he wasn’t in post in time to chair meeting Clearly he wasn't there if the post was a stake...🧛♂️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Nice to have friends in high places. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/department-for-enterprise-backs-newsons-appeal/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Holte End said: Nice to have friends in high places. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/department-for-enterprise-backs-newsons-appeal/ They along with DBC did support the original application so no changes to support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkin Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) Alternatively, the DfE can see this is a good thing to have rather than a dilapidated building with no prospects blighting the quay for years to come. hope they are successful Edited November 8, 2022 by Merkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Holte End said: Nice to have friends in high places. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/department-for-enterprise-backs-newsons-appeal/ It’s common sense though isn’t it? Although equally it maybe strategic in get the plans thrown out again and then the development partnership might be able to pick up the site for bugger all when they walk away and develop it themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said: It’s common sense though isn’t it? Although equally it maybe strategic in get the plans thrown out again and then the development partnership might be able to pick up the site for bugger all when they walk away and develop it themselves Good place for a horse tram monorail station... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, The Phantom said: Good place for a horse tram monorail station... Could probably get the Felt Museum in there as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I was about to say planning is a lottery, but that would be inaccurate , it's a minefield, and a lottery for some, but depending who you are, the storm clouds part and the sunlit uplands reveal themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCallig Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Sometimes the Planning Committee's decisions should read: "Shit design. Go away and get yourselves a better architect" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just a perspective post, this is a visit from the German Blockade running submarine , the Deutschland, worth a google. Also worth a skeet is what's behind,----"Newson's" . You will spot the centre section without it's roof, it collapsed in earlier times and was never replaced. To the right, the bracing plates are visible, installed as the structure was "Bagging", heading for collapse. The date of the image?----1920, --So, over a hundred years ago, this structure was heading for collapse and yet there are folk who will tell you it must be retained and restored, at someone else's expense of course. Knock the bugger down, it's not my heritage. 5 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, mollag said: Just a perspective post, this is a visit from the German Blockade running submarine , the Deutschland, worth a google. Also worth a skeet is what's behind,----"Newson's" . You will spot the centre section without it's roof, it collapsed in earlier times and was never replaced. To the right, the bracing plates are visible, installed as the structure was "Bagging", heading for collapse. The date of the image?----1920, --So, over a hundred years ago, this structure was heading for collapse and yet there are folk who will tell you it must be retained and restored, at someone else's expense of course. Knock the bugger down, it's not my heritage. Send this to planning committee! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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