hissingsid Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 Liverpool is a much better port than Heysham, a swift walk or short bus ride and you are in the city centre with Lime Street providing a good comprehensive train service . Heysham is ok if you have transport on foot it is dire. We need a docking facility in Liverpool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: It’s not worth £60m. If folk wanted to go to Liverpool take the plane. The £60M thereabouts is only the current figure. Some recently elected are predicting £80M - £100M. We still await Minister Crookall's first public words on the subject too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Ringy Rose said: Yep, inbound from Liverpool, and those are the numbers I've been told are processed by the borders lot. Maybe it's slightly less in a "normal" year. The cost of the option they chose doesn't mean a Liverpool port isn't required. If you're driving then the big issue with Liverpool is you get chucked out right in the city centre right in the middle of rush hour. If you can’t cope with driving in a big city you really shouldn’t be driving at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: If you can’t cope with driving in a big city you really shouldn’t be driving at all. I'm perfectly capable of driving in a big city, I lived in London for long enough. But trying to get out of Liverpool at 5.30pm is...interesting. You're certainly not getting anywhere in a hurry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Manx17 said: I think the Manx Man will take the same amount of time as the Ben Yeah, it will. Manxman will have more cabins and more lounge space, so at least there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Ringy Rose said: Inbound to the island. Mostly residents who've gone across for shopping/football/drinking. None of which you can do in Heysham. The Steam Packet needs a presence in Liverpool. Regardless of whether the Half-Tide Dock is the right location (doubtful) and whether it needs an all-singing terminal (doubtful), pulling out of the city isn't really an option. The Steam Packet doesn't need "a presence" in Liverpool, just somewhere to berth and let pax on and off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Gladys said: The Steam Packet doesn't need "a presence" in Liverpool, just somewhere to berth and let pax on and off. you're right, 60 to 100m is a hell of a presence ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katman Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 9:50 PM, Manx17 said: It’s full of asbestos I thought all the asbestos was taken out some years back? The Sea Terminal building isn't that bad, a spruce up will sort it out. It's better than the one at Heysham and the one the Ben uses at Birkenhead. Will the new Steam Packet boat be able to use the new Liverpool Terminal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Gladys said: The Steam Packet doesn't need "a presence" in Liverpool, just somewhere to berth and let pax on and off. That's what I meant. It doesn't need to be an all-singing terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Manx17 said: It’s the floor I believe Its not an issue then unless someone starts digging the floor up to look for voids 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Its not an issue then unless someone starts digging the floor up to look for voids Most of the right hand side is built on concrete piling supports over what was beach at low tide and water at high tide. Until Manx Line link span was built in 1978 and Circus Beach filled in for the marshalling area, much later, you could see them. it’s some void. Not sure if it was backfilled when Circus beach was filled in. You certainly couldn’t have compacted it down. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, John Wright said: Most of the right hand side is built on concrete piling supports over what was beach at low tide and water at high tide. Until Manx Line link span was built in 1978 and Circus Beach filled in for the marshalling area, much later, you could see them. it’s some void. Not sure if it was backfilled when Circus beach was filled in. You certainly couldn’t have compacted it down. Ah. Real voids. I wonder if the asbestos in the floor is to insulate against the cold of the sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 The asbestos was to stop the Sea setting fire to the building! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Happier diner said: Ah. Real voids. I wonder if the asbestos in the floor is to insulate against the cold of the sea 1 hour ago, Kopek said: The asbestos was to stop the Sea setting fire to the building! Because it’s a public space, and the voids were accessible at low tide by the GMP, there was a risk of someone building a bonfire underneath, so asbestos was included in the floor design/build to keep the public using the sea terminal safe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 21 hours ago, John Wright said: Because it’s a public space, and the voids were accessible at low tide by the GMP, there was a risk of someone building a bonfire underneath, so asbestos was included in the floor design/build to keep the public using the sea terminal safe If you reverse GMP you get PMG, which coincidentally enough are Phil Gawne's initials... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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