Banker Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Stu Peters said: I know it's one of my pet tinfoil hat topics, but does nobody else see a complete disconnect between this (and similar proposals) and the clear and present danger (allegedly) of climate change and rising sea levels? Stu, what I can’t understand is why are we continuing to build on greenfield sites when there’s loads of derelict sites in towns which should be developed first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Banker said: Why can’t the developers build on brownfield sites , Douglas there’s loads & Ramsey most of promenade around bleak house Because developers are not benign entities who wish to assist the community, they wish to develop for profit and whether it messes up the countryside or kills wildlife, is of no concern to them, the only driver is the bottom line. They of course employ tame consultants who tell everyone how marvellous it all is and how much it will benefit the community, it will only benefit shareholders. Brownfield sites aren't as attractive to them as profits are harder to achieve. What a shame for the riverside countryside. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, asitis said: Because developers are not benign entities who wish to assist the community, they wish to develop for profit and whether it messes up the countryside or kills wildlife, is of no concern to them, the only driver is the bottom line. They of course employ tame consultants who tell everyone how marvellous it all is and how much it will benefit the community, it will only benefit shareholders. Brownfield sites aren't as attractive to them as profits are harder to achieve. What a shame for the riverside countryside. Agree with what you say but they should be stopped from greenfield development whilst brownfield are lying empty, hopefully Chris Thomas will sort it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, hissingsid said: Yes he was on Mannin Line and he said the housing and road would need lifting a lot, he mentioned he could supply the rubble if required 🤣 . Let's hope that it's a by-product of the demolition of his shit tip of a yard 😂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Parts of Ramsey looks like a poor version of Pripyat so lets build on marshland that is natures flood prevention system instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Banker said: Why can’t the developers build on brownfield sites , Douglas there’s loads & Ramsey most of promenade around bleak house It's cheaper to clear hedges and trees than it is to clear derelict buildings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Banker said: Agree with what you say but they should be stopped from greenfield development whilst brownfield are lying empty, hopefully Chris Thomas will sort it After his first appearance on the Mannin Line as the new Housing Minister the other day, I wouldn't build your hopes up. No mention of developers, the housing boom, new resident sales, or following the money. Just the usual waffle... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 But, but Hartford Homes site is having a, 'micro forest', as an amenity feature! Whaaaaat? I thought that was a copse or maybe a wood?.............Micro forest, jeez! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: After his first appearance on the Mannin Line as the new Housing Minister the other day, I wouldn't build your hopes up. No mention of developers, the housing boom, new resident sales, or following the money. Just the usual waffle... If you are going to build your hopes up then do so on a green field site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, slinkydevil said: "Will remain dry, will remain safe." Lol lol lol. I wouldn't put any of my money near this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: But, but Hartford Homes site is having a, 'micro forest', as an amenity feature! Whaaaaat? I thought that was a copse or maybe a wood?.............Micro forest, jeez! That was exactly what I thought when I saw the 3FM piece. It's not even as if it's replacing buildings - just an existing area of grass. A lot of people's gardens will provide more assistance to wildlife etc that this tiny patch, but no one is calling those micro-anything. If a tenth of the effort that went into this relentless greenwash was put into actual work to reduce carbon emissions, we might see some progress. instead let's build on a flood plain and let the public sort out the resulting mess. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Stu Peters said: the clear and present danger (allegedly) of climate change I think White Man speak with forked tongue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Banker said: Stu, what I can’t understand is why are we continuing to build on greenfield sites when there’s loads of derelict sites in towns which should be developed first Developers who are looking to make a profit will not surprisingly build what People want to buy. That is a new build house with harness and drives, a play are etc. To do that in a town would cost significantly more than it does on an area like this, which is effectively dead space at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Amadeus said: Who's Merrion? isn't that robin hoods bird ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: To do that in a town would cost significantly more than it does on an area like this, which is effectively dead space at the moment. It is a sponge which regulates water flow reducing flash flooding, captures carbon, is good for wildlife. It is an asset to our planet. The dead space may be between your ears. People will buy what is available, if that is only houses in town then that is what they will buy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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