Mannin Line Today

[The Voice of Reason]

3 minutes ago, Bazza Smurf said:

Fares are few and far between. I'm not in the business of turning them away. 

And that is where the problem lies.

Good luck to you Barry

[Annoymouse]

You don’t have to wear a mask on public transport, nobody has the right to question an exemption status, it’s just that most people comply without question.

[Mysteron]

30 minutes ago, Annoymouse said:

You don’t have to wear a mask on public transport, nobody has the right to question an exemption status, it’s just that most people comply without question.

The first line of this link seems to suggest otherwise...

Face coverings are mandatory on public transport and in health and care settings. They are strongly advised in crowded or indoor spaces, especially where ventilation is not good.

Updated 30 November 2021

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/guidance-on-face-coverings/#notable

[Annoymouse]

7 minutes ago, Mysteron said:

The first line of this link seems to suggest otherwise...

Face coverings are mandatory on public transport and in health and care settings. They are strongly advised in crowded or indoor spaces, especially where ventilation is not good.

Updated 30 November 2021

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/

8 minutes ago, Mysteron said:

The first line of this link seems to suggest otherwise...

Face coverings are mandatory on public transport and in health and care settings. They are strongly advised in crowded or indoor spaces, especially where ventilation is not good.

Updated 30 November 2021

https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/guidance-on-face-coverings/#notable

guidance-on-face-coverings/#notable

It’s there in black and white underneath what you’ve just linked to : 

If you have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering you do not need to show:

• any written evidence of this
• an exemption card

This means that you do not need to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about your reason for not wearing a face covering.

So if someone doesn’t want to wear a face mask they just have to say they’re exempt and nobody has the right to question/challenge them.

 

[WTF]

8 hours ago, Annoymouse said:

It’s there in black and white underneath what you’ve just linked to : 

If you have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering you do not need to show:

• any written evidence of this
• an exemption card

This means that you do not need to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about your reason for not wearing a face covering.

So if someone doesn’t want to wear a face mask they just have to say they’re exempt and nobody has the right to question/challenge them.

 

perhaps not, but they can probably be denied access/transport/travel by the driver if they are not wearing a mask.   not the same thing but the same result.

[John Wright]

1 hour ago, WTF said:

perhaps not, but they can probably be denied access/transport/travel by the driver if they are not wearing a mask.   not the same thing but the same result.

And that would be disability ( a protected characteristic ) discrimination. With all that could bring.

[WTF]

53 minutes ago, John Wright said:

And that would be disability ( a protected characteristic ) discrimination. With all that could bring.

wouldn't actual proof of disability be required once it got to court ?  

[Passing Time]

Just now, WTF said:

wouldn't actual proof of disability be required once it got to court ?  

Would BV take that chance?

[WTF]

1 minute ago, Passing Time said:

Would BV take that chance?

with a 20 something local track star i'd say they would.

[John Wright]

7 minutes ago, WTF said:

wouldn't actual proof of disability be required once it got to court ?  

Yes. But they aren’t allowed to ask. And is the risk worth it. Reputationally and cost wise?

[quilp]

What are we talking about here, hurting a person's feelings or necessity?

 

[Ringy Rose]

15 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

Would BV take that chance?

More importantly, would a bus driver take the chance? It's not like BV have a track record in backing up their staff, quote the opposite in fact.

It's just another one of those laws which, like LFTs for UK arrivals here, is ultimately completely unenforceable. The only benefit to the law is getting most people to mostly comply for the sake of an easy life.

[James Blonde]

41 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Yes. But they aren’t allowed to ask. And is the risk worth it. Reputationally and cost wise?

Yes they would. The costs would be met by the taxpayer and they don't care about reputation so long as their salaries roll in on payday. 

[Bazza Smurf]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

And that would be disability ( a protected characteristic ) discrimination. With all that could bring.

And this is why John I went on radio and emailed our elected representatives and voiced my concerns. Nothing to do with law, human rights, exemptions etc should be just thrown out there and expect it to be understood by ALL. Even on here there are different ideas and opinions on what all this means. 

[John Wright]

16 minutes ago, Bazza Smurf said:

And this is why John I went on radio and emailed our elected representatives and voiced my concerns. Nothing to do with law, human rights, exemptions etc should be just thrown out there and expect it to be understood by ALL. Even on here there are different ideas and opinions on what all this means. 

It’s really simple, Barry. Mask wearing in a taxi is compulsory, you, as driver, are entitled, indeed required, to refuse to carry if they don’t, and won’t, wear one. However, if, when challenged, the response is that the fare is exempt you have to carry, come what may.