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MNH to Waste £5M


James Blonde

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4 hours ago, hissingsid said:

If it is going to draw crowds to Castletown to be amazed by this structure surely the Castletown Commissioners could stump up the shortfall it will no doubt bring added business to all the shops etc.   😜

Crowds - Castletown. Not oft heard in the same sentence. 

It would have to bring in some serious business to pay for itself. How many people want to look at an old boat (no disrespect intended), and are they the free spending type that's what Castletown has in mind?

Perhaps not.

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23 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Three options? I haven't seen them

Perhaps a committee of Tynwald will drag the lady before them & enquire as to why the £5m option is the preferred way forward

Technically there's seven options listed in the full report.  One of them is doing nothing[1], one is putting it back in the damp cellar which would be silly and the other five are building something new to display it in, which all cost about £5 million.

I actually think there's too much being assumed over the future of the Museum here and how they develop it and the discussion should actually be wider.

 

[1]  Which costs £2.68 million because they still want to do lots to the Nautical Museum.

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

Technically there's seven options listed in the full report.  One of them is doing nothing[1], one is putting it back in the damp cellar which would be silly and the other five are building something new to display it in, which all cost about £5 million.

I actually think there's too much being assumed over the future of the Museum here and how they develop it and the discussion should actually be wider.

 

[1]  Which costs £2.68 million because they still want to do lots to the Nautical Museum.

Close the Nautical Museum and place it in the Peel Museum?

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How much entry fee to the Boat display? Locals will go once, then it's down to Tourists, doubt the Coach Trippers will pay?

Let's face it, we're getting it whether we want it or not! Let's hope it can be kept to budget!!! ***

Castletown needs something? Co op, a butchers and a Castle. Not a lot of reason to go there?

*** Not a hope in a boat cellar???

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On 1/14/2022 at 11:23 AM, James Blonde said:

 

Government should only be spending on essentials (health, education, police, essential infrastructure). If it's not essential then Government shouldn't be spending on it. 

 

Well then you enter into the realms of what is essential and who decides that. In particular re infrastructure 


Ignoring the overspend, was it essential that the Government spent a penny on the prom? It was a working road before the project began

Is a museum essential ?

Are cardboard cut out policemen essential?

Are the matrix signs re the road conditions essential ? (We managed for decades without them.)

And a particular favourite of mine, are cycling lanes essential and all this money spent on pandering to this one particular group ( active travel shit) essential?

One man’s meat etc

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Was loaning to the UK National Maritime Museum at Greenwich considered as an option ?

It's a wonderful piece of history, but 5M+ for a dedicated museum in the post-tourist, post-COVID era is a big ask for a small community in decline. Might be better off in a national collection where more people are likely to see it.

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9 hours ago, The Bastard said:

Was loaning to the UK National Maritime Museum at Greenwich considered as an option ?

It's a wonderful piece of history, but 5M+ for a dedicated museum in the post-tourist, post-COVID era is a big ask for a small community in decline. Might be better off in a national collection where more people are likely to see it.

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We could send it to San Diego so it can be parked up next to that other piece of Manx nautical history, the Star of India 😁

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15 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Well then you enter into the realms of what is essential and who decides that. In particular re infrastructure 


Ignoring the overspend, was it essential that the Government spent a penny on the prom? It was a working road before the project began

Is a museum essential ?

Are cardboard cut out policemen essential?

Are the matrix signs re the road conditions essential ? (We managed for decades without them.)

And a particular favourite of mine, are cycling lanes essential and all this money spent on pandering to this one particular group ( active travel shit) essential?

One man’s meat etc

You make a fair point. Health, education and police are pretty clear cut. 

Infrastructure is a muddle and always will be under the current regime. But there's obvious ones like ports, airports and roads. 

It's pretty clear an old rowing boat isn't essential. 

 

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