TheTeapot Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Sam Turton of Gef has posted this on twitter, highlighting the sneakiness of a consultation on our border security https://twitter.com/TurtonSam/status/1488165171864428546 The loonies in charge actually want you to have to go through all this extra faff when you get the boat. You can fill in the consultation for yourself right here: https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/border-security-coordination/consultation/intro/ It is only two questions and the answers are no and no, you don't even have to read it. Only got a few days to let them know. Closes on the 3rd. Do it. Edited January 31, 2022 by TheTeapot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, offshoremanxman said: Governments the world over do not want to let go of the extra powers they’ve had over covid. That’s all this is about. I hope you register your disapproval on the consultation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Disapproval registered. More justification for the ballooning civil service 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I should add, I think Gary Roberts watches too much line of duty. He predicted turf wars when we closed the boarders. Instead we had one bloke on a jet ski and a woman who stopped for petrol getting arrested 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 What extra faff? Sorry if I'm being thick but I've scan read it and I can't see what extra faff you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 The kind of faff people are currently subjected to is what I mean by extra, as opposed to the situation before the pandemic when you could just get on the boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I told you all in the other thread it was here to stay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Sam Turton of Gef has posted this on twitter, highlighting the sneakiness of a consultation on our border security https://twitter.com/TurtonSam/status/1488165171864428546 The loonies in charge actually want you to have to go through all this extra faff when you get the boat. You can fill in the consultation for yourself right here: https://consult.gov.im/cabinet-office/border-security-coordination/consultation/intro/ It is only two questions and the answers are no and no, you don't even have to read it. Only got a few days to let them know. Closes on the 3rd. Do it. Thanks for letting me know how I should “vote” Saves me having to think for myself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 They've already purchased the electronic e-gates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, snowman said: They've already purchased the electronic e-gates Are they as good as the ones at the airport? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 59 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: His opening gambit is pure post pandemic authoritarianism: “the sense of threat seemed to come into sharp focus during the covid19 pandemic [Covid mentioned so soon it’s a giveaway] and there is now broad public and political consensus about the need for our borders to be made more secure. [Really from whom except you??] During the last year a considerable amount of work was done to identify the precise nature of the threats. [And yet we don’t publish any of it in this consultation]. At one level organised criminal groups seek to exploit the border to traffic drugs, launder money and exploit the vulnerable. At another level, when the borders are open travelling offenders often see the Isle of Man as being a lucrative target. [ie, some scousers nicked some car radios at the airport carpark about 20 years ago]. A strong intelligence picture is also developing to show that organised groups are also involved in trafficking people [Really??] and in committing immigration offences. Noticeably absent is any mention of paedo’s though. I really thought he’d say something about paedo’s they’re obviously ok with them coming over. I have no problem with border controls, but the information should be collected by the Steam Packet and airlines, and forwarded to the relevant department by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Objections registered! There is nothing they won't do to scare everyone into agreeing to giving up their civil liberties. This lot are bloody mental! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 About 15 years ago, I was actually in favour of proper arrival and departure controls. It could have made a real difference to some of the issues prevailing. Today, I’m not so sure, especially in this clandestine way. Restore general movement, then see how people feel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Like going through the airport isn't hassle enough, last time I went away I was subjected to a bomb/drugs swabbing and a total bag empty, with no shoes on and it was a cold floor - I felt quite sorry for the poor lad that was doing the search, he was nervous, poorly trained and clearly didn't want to do it. The elderly lady after me was in a similar situation but at least she had tights on! And it caused me to be delayed in getting to the bar for my holiday pint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: About 15 years ago, I was actually in favour of proper arrival and departure controls. It could have made a real difference to some of the issues prevailing. Today, I’m not so sure, especially in this clandestine way. Restore general movement, then see how people feel. Me too, but this was before we began to slip into a totalitarian nightmare. Thank god I was young when I was, this island could be a beacon of freedom but through mismanagement and inaction it has become an overmanaged shithole! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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