slinkydevil Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, P.K. said: As they cannot bludgeon their way through from the East the Russians will probably make another attempt on Kyiv but this time from Belarus thus escalating the conflict. I'm seeing reports that Belerus are implementing mobilisation. Whether the Belerusian male population are up for that, I'm not so sure, but looks like Lukashenko is ready to join the fight. The announcement at the Barysau bus station: “All male citizens from 18 to 60 years old must come to an enlistment office or village executive committee to clarify their data.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, slinkydevil said: I'm seeing reports that Belerus are implementing mobilisation. Whether the Belerusian male population are up for that, I'm not so sure, but looks like Lukashenko is ready to join the fight. The announcement at the Barysau bus station: “All male citizens from 18 to 60 years old must come to an enlistment office or village executive committee to clarify their data.” Putin probably putting pressure on Belarus. More food for the slaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, P.K. said: Attacking in the South runs the risk of cutting off the Crimea which will not be well received in Moscow. I think they will do exactly that. They'll try and split the southern front and go for Mariupol or Berdiansk, thereby cutting the overland supply route to Crimea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Putin probably putting pressure on Belarus. More food for the slaughter. Slaughter is right. It's likely hundreds were killed in the strike on Makiivka. Just four Himars rockets were used but the Russians have a habit of storing munitions in stupid places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, GD4ELI said: Putin probably putting pressure on Belarus. More food for the slaughter. Selling gas to Belarus at a 5th of the going market rate buys a lot of influence too, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 hours ago, slinkydevil said: I'm seeing reports that Belerus are implementing mobilisation. Whether the Belerusian male population are up for that, I'm not so sure, but looks like Lukashenko is ready to join the fight. The announcement at the Barysau bus station: “All male citizens from 18 to 60 years old must come to an enlistment office or village executive committee to clarify their data.” Hopefully that will be the fall of the puppet Lukashenko... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Hopefully that will be the fall of the puppet Lukashenko... If that happens Russia will likely invade. Imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Hopefully that will be the fall of the puppet Lukashenko... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, P.K. said: If that happens Russia will likely invade. Imho. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/5911 Doubt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 What i still wonder is which nation damaged the Nord Stream 1 pipeline. It hit the news and nothing has been concluded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 6:05 PM, quilp said: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/5911 Doubt it. Lukashenko will do just as Putin say. The call they have to make is whether the involvement of Belarus in the war will cause another uprising in Minsk. That would be a bad look. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 6:24 PM, La_Dolce_Vita said: What i still wonder is which nation damaged the Nord Stream 1 pipeline. It hit the news and nothing has been concluded. Nord Stream 2 do you mean? Ask yourself who has most to gain by selling alternative gas supplies to Europe and who was against the project from its inception. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 7 hours ago, woolley said: Nord Stream 2 do you mean? Ask yourself who has most to gain by selling alternative gas supplies to Europe and who was against the project from its inception. Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic States were against it. The country with the most to gain commercially would be Norway. Strategically Ukraine gains as Moscow loses leverage over some NATO allies. Moscow blames the Royal Navy. Which would mean Liz Truss gave the order. I think she would be too busy destroying the UK economy and causing the BoE to spaff away £60bn propping it up to bother with some silly old gas pipeline. The damaged section is in Danish territorial waters. I suspect the culprits have already been identified. So I guess we'll find out in due course... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Moscow might be right. But I don't think it likely we would find out who the culprit was. If it was the US or Britain, or other European nation then I think denial would be the likely response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 19 hours ago, La_Dolce_Vita said: Moscow might be right. But I don't think it likely we would find out who the culprit was. If it was the US or Britain, or other European nation then I think denial would be the likely response. I very much doubt that any NATO country would act alone on this. It's possible that Putin was going to cut supplies off anyway. As a pariah nation the chances of any European customers coming back to the fold after the naked aggression in Ukraine is almost certainly zero. So Moscow blew their own pipeline up so Gazprom wouldn't have to pay compensation for failing to supply. However if that happened surely it would be in the public domain by now? Curious... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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