P.K. Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: You realise they have all the US & UK military satellites helping then? These things have the very best optics, think Google Maps and then increase the resolution. A new update every 10 minutes or better. As you say, many Russian troops don't want to be there, their officers don't know how to train a modern army. Real time updates really suit the Ukrainians with their precision artillery that can drop a shell in a dustbin. It gives them the large advantage of being able to take on targets of opportunity. Something the Russian Command and Control systems are too slow to take advantage of.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, P.K. said: Real time updates really suit the Ukrainians with their precision artillery that can drop a shell in a dustbin. It gives them the large advantage of being able to take on targets of opportunity. Something the Russian Command and Control systems are too slow to take advantage of.... And the US / UK officers can run the show via satellite, real time videos from troops on the ground. Have you seen the Ukrainians using drones to drop grenades inside Russian tanks? These new tanks will slaughter the Russians and their guys know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: These new tanks will slaughter the Russians and their guys know it. Only if they find out about them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Have you seen the Ukrainians using drones to drop grenades inside Russian tanks? Some of the drone footage has been incredible. Obviously for the observation, fire control and dropping munitions, but there has been some other interesting stuff happening with them. Drone on drone combat. No weapons, but a UA one ramming an Orc one out of the sky when they were both observing. Won't be long before someone adds an SMG or similar. Also seen footage of drones picking up damaged drones and even a Russian encrypted radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, P.K. said: Real time updates really suit the Ukrainians with their precision artillery that can drop a shell in a dustbin. It gives them the large advantage of being able to take on targets of opportunity. Something the Russian Command and Control systems are too slow to take advantage of.... https://liveuamap.com/ Pretty handy for relatively realtime updates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manxman1980 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 hours ago, The Phantom said: Won't be long before someone adds an SMG or similar. I assume you have seen the 'civilian' drones fitted with flamethrowers? They are being used to clear powerlines of detritus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: I assume you have seen the 'civilian' drones fitted with flamethrowers? They are being used to clear powerlines of detritus. Actually yeah thinking about it, I have seen those and the robo-dog machine gun. Just seems (surprisingly) that no one has done it in combat yet (that we know of) especially drone on drone. I did see somewhere was training eagles to take down drones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The Russians have one thing though. Huge weight of numbers and official indifference to how many die on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 The German Inspector of Army, Alfons Mais, says German military combat-readiness is less than it was before the outbreak of the conflict... https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/heeresinspekteur-mais-deutlich-bundeswehr-steht-noch-blanker-da-als-vor-dem-krie-82667660.bild.html (English translation available). 'combat-readiness' has been lax amongst the major players in the European sector, especially when considering their collective expenditure on defence, for decades. A subject much trumpeted by arch-trumpeter Trump during his tenure, saying NATO was still too reliant on the US military as its front-line defence in Europe. Old Joe says the US may take up to a year to deliver the Abrams promised. UK appears to have supply problems also. Zelenskyy now wants fighter planes. US has depleted its stash of heavy artillery shells quartered in Israel after sending 300,000 rounds to Ukraine... A huge escalation looms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 An escalation where? One war is enough for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, P.K. said: An escalation where? One war is enough for now... Escalation; meaning 'a rapid increase, a rise', in this case referring to that war. Come April, there'll be a spring offensive from both sides, should negotiations not bring about a cease-fire, which seems unlikely. And what if, in the meantime Putin pegs it, what then? A couple of contenders standing in the wings of the Kremlin have threatened all-out war with NATO, including nukes, etc., should they become leader. The promises of military hardware support from friendly countries have been made, so it would seem that it's not a question of 'if', but much more importantly, 'when' this support will arrive. Wouldn't you agree that because of the time-scale in providing effective supply and re-armament it's becoming a logistical nightmare for the Ukrainians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, quilp said: A couple of contenders standing in the wings of the Kremlin have threatened all-out war with NATO, including nukes, etc., should they become leader. Speaks volumes for the sort of psyche and political doctrine that currently leads Russia. What would they hope to achieve, have they forgotten Mutually Assured Destruction? Do they not look at Ukraine and the performance of their own forces and weaponry in the conflict and have any sort of doubts as to what would happen if they took on NATO and the West? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Speaks volumes for the sort of psyche and political doctrine that currently leads Russia. What would they hope to achieve, have they forgotten Mutually Assured Destruction? Do they not look at Ukraine and the performance of their own forces and weaponry in the conflict and have any sort of doubts as to what would happen if they took on NATO and the West? It's not 'they', it's Putin and his small group of friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, quilp said: Escalation; meaning 'a rapid increase, a rise', in this case referring to that war. Come April, there'll be a spring offensive from both sides Wouldn't you agree that because of the time-scale in providing effective supply and re-armament it's becoming a logistical nightmare for the Ukrainians? Of course both sides will become more active when the better weather arrives. I should imagine all the plans for it are already in place. It's just business as usual. I doubt very much if logistics are a problem for the Ukrainians. Everything can come through NATO members Germany and Poland with impunity. Plus their Command and Control is clearly superior to the Russians. Not a high bar I grant you. As for supplying battlegroups with everything they need they've been at war with Russia since 2014 and have probably got very good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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