TheTeapot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) You can read about the skip eviction story here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bgivyDNdPqMtLmkEtA5mb5X4U-HRDC9A/view Reminder - the man had been a tenant for 15 years and was evicted owing £300, and now he's dead. Go Corpy!! Edited February 23, 2022 by TheTeapot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 More on the story from Manx Radio at the time. The Council's reaction was both defensive and unhelpful (and of course they blamed GDPR on absolutely no evidence). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 9:21 PM, Manx17 said: You sound like you know this persons private business. Are you in the corporation? No I don't but you know him and you are making public his private business. It all sounds a bit horrific. I am willing to, even metaphorically, wave a placard around with you, but I think there must be more to this than what you have gleaned. Don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophie_C Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hi Amadeus:- I begin with a sincere thank you for taking the time to respond to the Forum. The long overdue transparency into the workings of Douglas Borough Council (DBC) is very much appreciated. Councillor Pitts recently announced his resignation as Chairman of the Regeneration and Community Committee (R&CC) due, in part, to there being a ‘lack of camaraderie’. This may well be a tad disingenuous with the latest fiasco yet to become public knowledge. In March of 2020, the R&CC of DBC announced, in conjunction with Manx Gas, it was to trial a compressed natural gas (CNG) powered vehicle. Other local authorities and interested parties were given access to the 3-month trial. Only DBC deemed the trial successful, which subsequently led to four vehicles being purchased. Estimated costs were said to exceed £100,000. An additional cost (approx. £10,000) had been incurred to provide plant facilities to enable the natural gas to be compressed on-site. Further costs would be incurred for the training of vehicle technicians in the vehicles’ high pressure gas systems – a legal requirement. The vehicles were delivered in mid-2021, since when they have been left to decay in a Douglas field, overlooking a public footpath, ironically mocking the passing rate payers who have paid for them. Simply put, it’s said that the vehicles aren’t authorised for use on Manx roads on account of them not being Type Approved. For Type Approval, a change in Manx vehicle legislation will be required and such changes will have to go before Tynwald for discussion. It is believed a request to the manufacturer to accept return of all 4 vehicles has been refused on account of them being supplied ‘in good faith'. It is now alleged the vehicles are being considered for transfer back across to the UK and put straight to auction. So I respectfully present the following questions for your consideration. 1) Who of the R&CC authorised the purchase? 2) What 'due diligence' was employed to ensure they were suitable for DBC use? 3) What costs have been incurred retaining the vehicles that the CNG vehicles were due to replace e.g. ongoing maintenance, depreciation etc.? 4) How much has been invested on this project at the current time? I await your response with interest. Kind regards Sophie_C (Douglas ratepayer). 2 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sophie_C said: Hi Amadeus:- I begin with a sincere thank you for taking the time to respond to the Forum. The long overdue transparency into the workings of Douglas Borough Council (DBC) is very much appreciated. Councillor Pitts recently announced his resignation as Chairman of the Regeneration and Community Committee (R&CC) due, in part, to there being a ‘lack of camaraderie’. This may well be a tad disingenuous with the latest fiasco yet to become public knowledge. In March of 2020, the R&CC of DBC announced, in conjunction with Manx Gas, it was to trial a compressed natural gas (CNG) powered vehicle. Other local authorities and interested parties were given access to the 3-month trial. Only DBC deemed the trial successful, which subsequently led to four vehicles being purchased. Estimated costs were said to exceed £100,000. An additional cost (approx. £10,000) had been incurred to provide plant facilities to enable the natural gas to be compressed on-site. Further costs would be incurred for the training of vehicle technicians in the vehicles’ high pressure gas systems – a legal requirement. The vehicles were delivered in mid-2021, since when they have been left to decay in a Douglas field, overlooking a public footpath, ironically mocking the passing rate payers who have paid for them. Simply put, it’s said that the vehicles aren’t authorised for use on Manx roads on account of them not being Type Approved. For Type Approval, a change in Manx vehicle legislation will be required and such changes will have to go before Tynwald for discussion. It is believed a request to the manufacturer to accept return of all 4 vehicles has been refused on account of them being supplied ‘in good faith'. It is now alleged the vehicles are being considered for transfer back across to the UK and put straight to auction. So I respectfully present the following questions for your consideration. 1) Who of the R&CC authorised the purchase? 2) What 'due diligence' was employed to ensure they were suitable for DBC use? 3) What costs have been incurred retaining the vehicles that the CNG vehicles were due to replace e.g. ongoing maintenance, depreciation etc.? 4) How much has been invested on this project at the current time? I await your response with interest. Kind regards Sophie_C (Douglas ratepayer). Hello Sophie. What a nicely detailed and precise post. To answer your questions, I can't answer your questions, as this has nothing to do with the committee I am on and was also well before my time. I have forwarded your post to someone in town hall who I hope will know more & will revert once I hear back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 That's the last Sophie will hear on that then. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 FFS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Coincidentally, I saw a gas powered Van in B nQ car park yesterday. Was it legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kopek said: Coincidentally, I saw a gas powered Van in B nQ car park yesterday. Was it legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) This is fairly typical of the system though. The slate is wiped clean at election time and no responsibility can be apportioned to either the departed or the incoming newly elected, it's nobody's responsibility any more. It's teflon-shouldery of the highest order but some have made very successful careers out of it. But look on the bright side; the vehicles can eventually be auctioned off in the same fashion as the chewing gum removal machine - at a huge loss to the Douglas ratepayer. Edited February 25, 2022 by Non-Believer extra bit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: This is fairly typical of the system though. The slate is wiped clean at election time and no responsibility can be apportioned to either the departed or the incoming newly elected, it's nobody's responsibility any more. It's teflon-shouldery of the highest order but some have made very successful careers out of it. what about the execs who probably pushed for this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I’d like to know which field they’re rotting in. I never got a chance to see the chewing gum machine, but I’d like to see this latest corpy white elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Gizo said: I’d like to know which field they’re rotting in. I never got a chance to see the chewing gum machine, but I’d like to see this latest corpy white elephant. Must be a revenue oportunity there for a walk through viewing . Say 50p a gander. I'd willingly pay that to see what my rate rise has been wasted on. Edited February 25, 2022 by Numbnuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Not a squeak of this on MR or in the press. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Manx17 said: I don’t know the person at all I don't know him from Adam. You do: On 2/23/2022 at 8:48 PM, Manx17 said: He was talking to his advocate, looked like they had just left the court. So I don’t think there is anything more to it. He looked very distressed (Approximately 50% of people leaving court look distressed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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