Passing Time Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, Omobono said: that must have been before 1971 there weren't any Pennies after that , but its the principal I object to , Most people would rather have decent public services such as free toilets and a weekly refuse collection than some of the rubbish and nonsense the corporation waste ratepayers money on , Free toilets is a good thing in theory. In practice, who is going to maintain them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Passing Time said: Free toilets is a good thing in theory. In practice, who is going to maintain them? The council staff. As part of their commitment to serving the public. They are committed to serving the public right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: The council staff. As part of their commitment to serving the public. They are committed to serving the public right? The moment we employ someone to do that we get criticised for employing someone to do that. If we outsource it we get criticised for outsourcing it. People think cleaning the bogs is something Doris can do between making tea and answering emails. Also, the main issue is vandalism, and not the type that occurs after you had a curry and visit one of the splendid council facilities. Truth is whatever we do with it people will complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Amadeus said: The moment we employ someone to do that we get criticised for employing someone to do that. If we outsource it we get criticised for outsourcing it. People think cleaning the bogs is something Doris can do between making tea and answering emails. Also, the main issue is vandalism, and not the type that occurs after you had a curry and visit one of the splendid council facilities. Truth is whatever we do with it people will complain. It was the decision to make the ones next to the kids park and occasional cafe on the prom 'pay to pee' toilets that made me realise that the people who make up Douglas Corporation were sociopaths. You weren't there then, but can I ask, do you think forcing parents of young children to pay to use the toilets that are sited right next to a park is justified? Little kids pee, a lot, often without much notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, Amadeus said: The moment we employ someone to do that we get criticised for employing someone to do that. If we outsource it we get criticised for outsourcing it. People think cleaning the bogs is something Doris can do between making tea and answering emails. Also, the main issue is vandalism, and not the type that occurs after you had a curry and visit one of the splendid council facilities. Truth is whatever we do with it people will complain. It also depends how much time Doris spends making the tea 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Amadeus said: The moment we employ someone to do that we get criticised for employing someone to do that. If we outsource it we get criticised for outsourcing it. People think cleaning the bogs is something Doris can do between making tea and answering emails. Also, the main issue is vandalism, and not the type that occurs after you had a curry and visit one of the splendid council facilities. Truth is whatever we do with it people will complain. I think that's a fair point and I have had the same dilemma many times. I think though that DB Ratepayers think that they pay for Toilet maintenance through their rates and quite rightly begrudge paying again to have a pee when they are in town. The other issue is what if you need to loo and you have no money. Is there an emergency option like with your mobile phone or are you expected to &^%$ on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I think that's a fair point and I have had the same dilemma many times. I think though that DB Ratepayers think that they pay for Toilet maintenance through their rates and quite rightly begrudge paying again to have a pee when they are in town. The other issue is what if you need to loo and you have no money. Is there an emergency option like with your mobile phone or are you expected to &^%$ on the floor? Didn’t your mum always ensure you had three old pennies in your pocket when you went out, 1d for the loo, 2d for the phone box? Why can’t you do that for yourself now you’re all grown up? Don't forget the mittens on string threaded through your sleeves. 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, John Wright said: Didn’t your mum always ensure you had three old pennies in your pocket when you went out, 1d for the loo, 2d for the phone box? Why can’t you do that for yourself now you’re all grown up? Don't forget the mittens on string threaded through your sleeves. And L&R on your wellies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 And C & A on your purple knickers 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, John Wright said: Didn’t your mum always ensure you had three old pennies in your pocket when you went out, 1d for the loo, 2d for the phone box? Why can’t you do that for yourself now you’re all grown up? Don't forget the mittens on string threaded through your sleeves. That's the problem these days John, some people just aren't capable of thinking for themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, piebaps said: And C & A on your purple knickers Thought it was P&P, for piss & poo? That really confused some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 OK I am ready to be shot down in flames but Onchan do not charge for using the public toilets which are serviced by a cleaning firm if they can do it why can’t Douglas ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hissingsid said: OK I am ready to be shot down in flames but Onchan do not charge for using the public toilets which are serviced by a cleaning firm if they can do it why can’t Douglas ? Because they don't think they're running a massive metropolis and just provide public services? Although it's not like vandalism is a problem unique to Douglas: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/vandals-target-newly-refurbished-onchan-park-toilets/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-46842125 Edited March 23, 2022 by 0bserver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think there is a question of 'Trust' around these charges. DCorp introduce a charge and say ''Ah, but we didn't increase the Rates by 0.002p. for this''! Can we be sure of this? The biggest of these type of extra charge would be an EFW charge which could be many pounds on top of the rates. Are there any plans for that? Has it been discussed in the Council? Cynic me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: OK I am ready to be shot down in flames but Onchan do not charge for using the public toilets which are serviced by a cleaning firm if they can do it why can’t Douglas ? That's because someone would nick all the money from the machines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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