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4 minutes ago, Pipsqueak said:

not really, sex education of old was really reproduction education or one aspect of our biology.  'sex' as in carnal indulgence is another topic altogether

Sex as a carnal indulgence is something teenagers will do if they’re taught about it or not. They’re young, full of hormones and haven’t quite nailed all the decision making yet. 

But, you’d much rather you didn’t end up a grandparent in that process, or for them to be stricken with some form of nasty.

Nor would you want your child putting anyone else in an uncomfortable situation, and you’d want your child to be able to speak out against one if they found themselves uncomfortable. 

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20 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

The seemed to be an obvious subtext in your question.

I don't remember sex education at Park Road, (yrs 7&8), I do remember it at St Ninians back in the 90s. Year 9 is probably the right time to start, year 7 is quite obviously too young in my view.

But many 11 year-olds will already have started puberty and most of those who haven't will be interested in the process and starting it soon.  So they're going to wanting information and advice and parents, despite what everyone says, are the worst possible people to do so (it's best not to get such info from people you are already emotionally engaged with).  So school is the obvious place to do so.

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10 minutes ago, BriT said:

Not really it’s largely a load of religious nutters trying to stir it. 

yes, the i can't get any  so you shouldn't be allowed to be getting any either squad,  the plain jane fuddy duddy god says so crowd, fuck off.

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18 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said:

No, it's real and plenty of people are aware of it. 

Is there any evidence for this?

Aside from the PHSE curriculum for sixth formers being linked, and hearsay from “anonymous parents”?

If you actually read the curriculum, the “focus” on other types of sex is partly as follows:

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It may be the case that young people think ‘sex’ is only penetrative penis/vagina sex, but in law, other sexual practices – oral sex, anal sex, mutual masturbation, and sexual touching – are also considered sex, and so if done without consent can be considered an assault.

Is it talking about condoms and lube in that context? Or is it the consent we’re taking issue with?

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As young people enter their Senior Phase of learning – S4, S5, and S6 or at college or in a community setting – there is further learning about sexual behaviours. A focus is given to considering anal sex for different reasons. Firstly, research and feedback from sexual health services is telling us young women are experiencing pressure in this regard. We do not fully understand why heterosexual young people are now more likely to have anal sex, but it may be influenced by the increasing presentation of anal sex in pornography (where 40% of pornographic scenes currently show anal sex). Secondly, in order for young people to protect themselves from rectally acquired STIs, which are on the increase in young men over the last few years, unambiguous information is essential.

Of course, teaching 16-18 year olds to use condoms, not to pressure people into sex and that it’s okay to say no is a horrendous concept to some. 

After all, the bible does say premarital sex is wrong. And, the higher birth rates in teenagers in states where abstinence is the main teaching of sex education, shows that it clearly works.

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Teaching 15 year old plus kids that if you stick your dick, or take a dick unprotected by a condom will likely result in an unwanted pregnancy is good.

Teaching kids that anal or oral is also sex is good although its not going to result in pregnancy is also good.

Teaching kids about fisting is just bloody stupid.

Telling a sex education class that what they see on the internet is NOT representative of how real sex is would be a good thing too, as most adults do not want to look like a painters radio after sex.

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5 hours ago, TheTeapot said:

No offence Roger but you thought kids should have to wear masks all the time in the pandemic, so I'll take what you think is best for kids with a good deal of salt.

A couple of girls got pregnant whilst I was in year 7.

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