Kopek Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Tho not that time of the ..................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 12 hours ago, quilp said: It wasn't the music teacher at Park Road was it? He could be far too touchy-feely, gave me the willies. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 It turns out that despite what some claimed earlier in the thread, there are religious groups that are going into the schools to deliver lessons. According Edge's reply to Haywood: Currently, lessons that are delivered in schools in collaboration with groups may include ‘LoveLife’. The Scripture Union Ministries Trust, known as SUMT, offers the LoveLife programme to Year 10 and 12 pupils in secondary schools. LoveLife is a facilitated sex and relationships course offered to schools free of charge. The material has been planned, practised and reviewed since 2012 and has been delivered to a consistently high standard to many Year 10 and Year 12 students in that time. Gef also has a summary of the exchanges. SUMT is an Isle of Man Charity who run (or used to run) the beach missions in the Summer, but now have a full-time team of six who seem to mainly concentrate on work in schools. I don't think they are tied to any particular religious denomination, though they operate in the evangelical wing of Protestantism. The attraction for DESC seems to be that they are free and so they are 'saving' money (they'd probably accept geography lessons from flat-earthers on the same principle). But any such educational programme is bound to be skewed by the beliefs of those presenting them. You couldn't expect such people to be suitably informative in discussing abortion for example. There's also (as Faragher pointed out) the problem that parents who choose to remove their children from such lessons aren't given any alternative. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Evangelical Protestants. Sounds dangerous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 11:03 PM, Gladys said: Anal and oral, probably. Oral sex? That involves listening to someone talking about sex. The other bit I am not too sure about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I think you are getting your organs mixed up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Aural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: known as SUMT A fourteen year old me would have found this very funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: A fourteen year old me would have found this very funny I'm 63, I think it's funny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prism10 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 They should be called the: The Scripture Ministries Union Trust, known as SMUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, quilp said: Evangelical Protestants. Sounds dangerous. I wouldn't trust people who use that many syllables to describe themselves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Perhaps more threatening than this sex education malarkey is what is preached about the afterlife. As a junior chorister I attended services (and sang at weddings etc) for a bit of cash in a mainstream C of E church. I remember being scared shitless at a very young age that unless I accepted Jesus into my life ( whatever that means) that upon my death I would be subjected, to an eternity of horrible things happening to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I think the problem with these groups is that they see their selves as providing a useful service and they do not think they are a propaganda arm of the Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) A few comments to throw in, especially to those who think that Sex Education should not be taught in schools outside of biology; 1. Porn is much more widely available to children who have access to computers/mobile devices and that is most definitely not the best place to learn about sexual relationships. Schools can teach students about healthy relationships and sex lives including safe sex and consent. Parents can also help but that I think many parents would shy away from such subjects. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/dec/15/billie-eilish-says-watching-porn-gave-her-nightmares-and-destroyed-my-brain 2. Paedophiles now have the ability to contact children anonymously through various apps etc which many parents may not be aware off. Schools can help by educating children on the dangers that they can face. They could also help educate parents. 3. Parents are not always the best teachers when it comes to sex education. That could be because they are uncomfortable talking to their children about it, or they only have experience of unhealthy relationships or maybe they simply don't have the required knowledge. Schools teaching to an agreed curriculum can avoid some of these pitfalls. (There was something circulating recently about a couple who had been trying for a child. They had fertility tests and everything was fine. There was no medical reason why they should not be able to conceive. Turned out they had been having anal sex...) I don't think religious groups should be involved in teaching sexual education though. It is one of those subjects which needs to be taught free from bias. Edited March 7, 2022 by manxman1980 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: I don't think religious groups should be involved in teaching sexual education though. It is one of those subjects which needs to be taught free from bias. all subjects should be free from bias but indoctrination is the norm when it comes to sex and religion and even historical events get the propaganda make over from 'our side' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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