CallMeCurious Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 7:04 AM, Thomas Dalby said: I have no idea why the headteacher at QEll wasn’t able to ask the teacher in charge Unions, HR & PR? Blame storming and trying deflection onto concerned parents 'bigotry'? Besides I thought the 'teacher in charge' was the headmaster? Human nature abhors a vacuum so in light of the overt secrecy people will speculate. Did they learn nothing from Covid? This smacks of something untoward happening (might only have a been a one off quite minor off script moment) and getting exposed and now they are trying to deliver the turd in fancy wrapping paper with a bow on it so we'll start playing pass the parcel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: Another cover up? The Manx Govt has buried more bones than a butcher's dog. Nothing to see here, move on, lessons learned, etc... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrisk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Whatnonsence said: Another cover up? Someone will leak the report or part of the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 TBF, it is only the ToRs that are being kept confidential to 'avoid prejudice'. It is not clear if this is to avoid general anti-gender equality prejudice or to avoid prejudicing the investigation. Either way, given the publicity this is hardly going to quell the speculation they are so keen to avoid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: The Manx Govt has buried more bones than a butcher's dog. Nothing to see here, move on, lessons learned, etc... Leaving only rumours and resentment towards the trans communities. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Gladys said: TBF, it is only the ToRs that are being kept confidential to 'avoid prejudice'. It is not clear if this is to avoid general anti-gender equality prejudice or to avoid prejudicing the investigation. Either way, given the publicity this is hardly going to quell the speculation they are so keen to avoid. Indeed. In the absence of even a denial of the alleged drag queen episode what are folk to conclude? IOMG are doing themselves and the wider Island no favours at all. It's not even engaged in a damage limitation exercise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: t's not even engaged in a damage limitation exercise. Not even in the slightest In fact, it seems to be the opposite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 32 minutes ago, Declan said: Leaving only rumours and resentment towards the trans communities. Has there been resentment towards the Trans community? I haven't seen anything untoward, only people asking what is being taught to children and is it appropriate 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Has there been resentment towards the Trans community? I haven't seen anything untoward, only people asking what is being taught to children and is it appropriate Lots of comments of “men are men and wimmin are wimmin, the rest are mentally ill” and along those lines on various local Facebook pages etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Has there been resentment towards the Trans community? I haven't seen anything untoward, only people asking what is being taught to children and is it appropriate You only have to look at the posts on here; unpleasant and bigoted before any facts are known. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catrisk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Has there been resentment towards the Trans community? I haven't seen anything untoward, only people asking what is being taught to children and is it appropriate Me neither. Maybe these are all the trans who were apparently too scared to turn up to the IOMG inclusivity workshops where they were supposed to tell government how they could be more inclusive but didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It was on the 8.00 news . The two things that have come to light were Julie’s statement that the Dept. Of Ed. distributed this material to schools on an advisory note which I have interpreted as a wriggle movement in other words we gave it to them but did not instruct them to use it it as left to the schools discretion .so pass the blame parcel to the Head Teachers. The other statement was made by Jason M. who said other schools had chosen not to use this material, this backs up various press reports that can be viewed with some uncertainty but when an MHK corroborates it in Tynwald I would certainly give it credibility. This was followed by a discussion by the presenters on offal as Bear Grylls has recommended we eat more instead of the listeners usual phone in spot. There was no mention of the subject on the 8.30 news. Open and transparent my Arse. Julie did mention her experienced team, I think that was the adjective she used, was still investigating and she did not want the report to be predjuiced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just to add Julie was unaware that some schools had decided not to proceed with this programme of sex education, she seems to be unaware of a lot of things . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Lots of comments of “men are men and wimmin are wimmin, the rest are mentally ill” and along those lines on various local Facebook pages etc. Not exactly resentment though it it? it's people giving their opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The rumour I heard, is that the drag queen was a Manx radio presenter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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