The Voice of Reason Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: One of the reasons drag has taken off is that it makes for good television, Not for me it doesn’t. Caught a bit of that Drag Race show once. I have no idea why anyone would think that entertainment . Each to their own I guess. But really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, WTF said: how much do you make from that then ? 50p so far. Saving up for a better camera. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, La_Dolce_Vita said: But no, drag performances are not a sex thing. Cross-dressing is a sex thing. That's where men (or women) get a sexual thrill from dressing in different clothes. Wow! LDV that’s a sweeping, and inaccurate, generalisation. Isn't there a distinction between someone who cross dresses, like, say, Grayson Perry, because they wish to wear the clothes of their choice, and not to conform to gender stereotyping by what they wear, and someone who fetishises clothing of the opposite gender for sexual gratification? Don't both exist? Maybe Grayson is a poor example. He sometimes has said there’s a safe space and a sexual excitement in cross dressing, but more and more says the Claire persona gives him permission to be outrageous, and the purpose of the more outlandish designs is so that people look at the clothes, not him, when he enters the room. I do wonder if it’s attention seeking behaviour? He says not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snaefell Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, John Wright said: Wow! LDV that’s a sweeping, and inaccurate, generalisation. Isn't there a distinction between someone who cross dresses, like, say, Grayson Perry, because they wish to wear the clothes of their choice, and not to conform to gender stereotyping by what they wear, and someone who fetishises clothing of the opposite gender for sexual gratification? Don't both exist? I think I will take the middle ground. Cross dressing can be for sexual gratification, but it can also be for comfort in their own identity. Whereas, drag performances can simply be a performance or can be a form exhibitionist gratification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, John Wright said: Wow! LDV that’s a sweeping, and inaccurate, generalisation. Isn't there a distinction between someone who cross dresses, like, say, Grayson Perry, because they wish to wear the clothes of their choice, and not to conform to gender stereotyping by what they wear, and someone who fetishises clothing of the opposite gender for sexual gratification? Don't both exist? Maybe Grayson is a poor example. He sometimes has said there’s a safe space and a sexual excitement in cross dressing, but more and more says the Claire persona gives him permission to be outrageous, and the purpose of the more outlandish designs is so that people look at the clothes, not him, when he enters the room. I do wonder if it’s attention seeking behaviour? He says not? Grayson Perry admits his fetish. Some people will just be wearing clothes, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Problem is, kids find out all sorts on YouTube and the rest of the internet. So what you don't teach, they'll get through tiktok and the rest. which is why kids should not have access to smartphones outside of parental control. By all means let them have a basic phone for communication but let's be honest, smart phones have ruined a lot of young lives. Or is that just me being a concerned grandparent... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 hours ago, TheTeapot said: I don't sell them these days you buffoon, and only smoke a bit of pot. And the very occasional mushroom trip. For therapeutic reasons. Can Ijust ask. Quite seriously, why you stopped being a drug dealer. Was it impending fatherhood? Fear of getting caught or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 where's mad uncle Ronnie when you need a bit of humorous interjection... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Passing Time said: which is why kids should not have access to smartphones outside of parental control. By all means let them have a basic phone for communication but let's be honest, smart phones have ruined a lot of young lives. Or is that just me being a concerned grandparent... Largely agree with you. But at what age do you stop being a “kid”. I’m afraid though the genie is out of the bottle and it’s not going back in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Can Ijust ask. Quite seriously, why you stopped being a drug dealer. Was it impending fatherhood? Fear of getting caught or something else? I was never really a drug dealer, more just someone who had easy access to drugs for a while. Maybe no difference in the eyes of the law had I ever got nicked I guess. Edit - I could probably still hook you up if you're stuck? edit 2 - this is a joke Edited March 21, 2023 by TheTeapot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, John Wright said: Wow! LDV that’s a sweeping, and inaccurate, generalisation. Isn't there a distinction between someone who cross dresses, like, say, Grayson Perry, because they wish to wear the clothes of their choice, and not to conform to gender stereotyping by what they wear, and someone who fetishises clothing of the opposite gender for sexual gratification? Don't both exist? Maybe Grayson is a poor example. He sometimes has said there’s a safe space and a sexual excitement in cross dressing, but more and more says the Claire persona gives him permission to be outrageous, and the purpose of the more outlandish designs is so that people look at the clothes, not him, when he enters the room. I do wonder if it’s attention seeking behaviour? He says not? Grayson Perry I have time for. That Rau Paul I don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Passing Time said: which is why kids should not have access to smartphones outside of parental control. By all means let them have a basic phone for communication but let's be honest, smart phones have ruined a lot of young lives. Or is that just me being a concerned grandparent... It's a really hard one to police. But generally, I agree. The problem is, there are always things that will slip through filters etc. Nothing is infallible. There's a lot to be said for fostering an environment where if a kid isn't sure about something, they can come to you as a parent or grandparent, without fear of reprisal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I was never really a drug dealer, more just someone who had easy access to drugs for a while. Maybe no difference in the eyes of the law had I ever got nicked I guess. Edit - I could probably still hook you up if you're stuck? edit 2 - this is a joke Oh sorry, but in an earlier post you said you had sold “loads of drugs”. Some might say that is what a drug dealer does. Anyway my genuine question is, what made you stop? Edited March 21, 2023 by The Voice of Reason Last sentence addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Snaefell Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Oh sorry, but in an earlier post you said you had sold “loads of drugs”. Some might say that is what a drug dealer does. Anyway my genuine question is, what made you stop? @TheTeapot Follow up question, are you open and transparent with your children about this part of your life? And, would you be ok if they followed in your footsteps? Edited March 21, 2023 by Mr Snaefell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Oh sorry, but in an earlier post you said you had sold “loads of drugs”. Some might say that is what a drug dealer does. Yes, I suppose so. It was more a case of buying in bulk, sorting out mates and getting yours for free than hang round on the corner pushing smack, if you can see there might be a difference. Depends what kind of a person you are really. Like I said, in the eyes of the law there probably isn't a difference. They just prosecuted some troubled little girl for doing that (except it wasn't even bulk), so if you support shit like that then you'll call it drug dealing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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