Shake me up Judy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 It's the big shut up, and the standard defence with IOM Govt. They'll be rounding up whistleblowers now and warning teachers not to speak to the media. They've been employing an agency to provide sex education in Island schools and have lost control of what's being taught. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Well shocking though it may be but at well over 80 years on this earth I still don’t know what fisting means 🤣 I do hope I have not missed out on anything interesting and I am not looking it up in case it pops up again when my grandchildren use my iPad. At 80, you really don't want, or need, to know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Shake me up Judy said: At 80, you really don't want, or need, to know. Even at 20 I didn’t want or need to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 hours ago, cissolt said: I may be an old prude, but teaching 12 year olds about anal sex seems a bit much. my recollection is there were a lot of fucking arseholes at school, and that was without any lessons. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shake me up Judy said: They've been employing an agency to provide sex education in Island schools and have lost control of what's being taught. That sounds like it might be the source of the problem. It feels to me that this subject is better delivered by a teacher the kids already know than an outsider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Declan said: That sounds like it might be the source of the problem. It feels to me that this subject is better delivered by a teacher the kids already know than an outsider. Yet that clip refers to a story of a teacher who told their class that they had to reach the topic but didn't want to. So told the children to ignore them and colour in while they delivered the lesson. Another of a pretty (relevance?) young teacher who gave the condom instruction, IIRC. So, it would seem that it is indeed the teachers presenting this info. Perhaps the agency provides the teaching plan and materials Edited February 25, 2023 by Gladys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Very good point, doubt they are being taught how to, more awareness, you would hope. As for the story of putting a condom on a wooden dildo, it was probably a wooden model of a penis used to demonstrate, not a sex toy. Just like during the AIDS education process, there were demonstrations of how to put a condom on a cucumber. We had a lot of safe salads in the 80s. Cucumbers and Bananas were commonly used for such demonstrations. Definitely makes more sense to use a more accurate model but I can also understand how it would upset some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Duplication Edited February 25, 2023 by manxman1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Screaming that they're all going to burn in Hell may not be effective. The only thing I would have disagree with, is what the children told the Drag Queen that there were only two genders, As anybody knows who is in a long term relationship, there are three Male, Female and us Eunuchs. Edited February 25, 2023 by Holte End 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Hooly said: So you're not bothered kids are being taught anal and oral sex, or that drag queen's are brought into schools to teach a lesson and kicking kids out of lessons? Teachers, who don't feel it appropriate to teach these lessons, are being told they must do so? Teenagers are going to be having sex whether or not they know how to do it safely. As was pointed out, the lessons on oral and anal sex are for 16-18 year olds. If you actually look at the linked PDF, some of the key points being taught are: Some people masturbate, some don’t, either is okay Not just vaginal sex counts as sex. Oral sex is too. Some people have anal sex, it’s important to still use a condom if you choose to. Porn can negatively influence how people see sex, don’t believe everything you see in it. For any sex you’re having, make sure you’re comfortable and consenting. It also draws awareness to coercion. So, consent, condoms and personal choice. They’re arguably good things to be teaching young people. As for the drag queens, do you also boycott the panto for kids? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Cucumbers and Bananas were commonly used for such demonstrations. Definitely makes more sense to use a more accurate model but I can also understand how it would upset some people. It is whether it was age appropriate really. No point showing an 11 year old, but 16 + probably wouldn't be a bad idea. If it is introduced in the right way and the pupils weren't forced to put a condom on the model, it shouldn't upset those in an appropriate age group. My recollection of being at that age was that if any difficult topic was broached in a mature and sympathetic way (which generally would engender a mature and sympathetic response) not many would be upset and would be thankful, even flattered, that their own maturity and ability to understand was acknowledged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: There was none of this when I was at school though and I don’t think it was any the worse for that. I think it’s vital that young people are taught the importance of bodily autonomy and consent. The importance of respecting someone else saying no, and that not just the word no means no. It has also been shown that teen pregnancy and STD rates are much higher where students don’t get sex education. Abstinence curriculums also lead to all sorts of weird things. Mormon soaking is an example that comes to mind. Google it at your own risk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: As for the drag queens, do you also boycott the panto for kids? The report said that when the pupils responded '2' to the question of how many genders there were the drag queen told them to leave. If true, that is completely wrong. The drag queen should have used it as an opportunity to explain the difference between sex and gender, and the wide spectrum of the latter, which let's face it, the rest of us are only coming to understand now. But, do we know the truth of what happened? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: The report said that when the pupils responded '2' to the question of how many genders there were the drag queen told them to leave. If true, that is completely wrong. The drag queen should have used it as an opportunity to explain the difference between sex and gender, and the wide spectrum of the latter, which let's face it, the rest of us are only coming to understand now. But, do we know the truth of what happened? If that’s truly what happened, then it absolutely isn’t on. But, I can’t see how it wouldn’t be used as an opportunity to discuss. Especially if the drag queen themselves had posed the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Drag queens shouldn't be in school discussing sex with kids. I can't think of anything more stupid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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