Newsdesk Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steady Eddie said: As I have said the handouts are going to have to stop. People have had 2 years to decide whether to sell up or sit it out. We can’t go on underwriting this pandemic mess indefinitely. The question is how long can we go on funding and I think we certainly won’t have the funds to go on after September which is going to leave a lot of businesses, hospitality especially, with a very bleak winter to look forward to. The covid grants in some cases (esp hotels and hospitality) have kept unviable businesses afloat and we can’t keep on writing cheques. In reality when the pandemic hit (or in reality the over zealous lockdown strategy hit) it should have instantly bankrupted large segments of the private sector. We provided covid grants so that this didn’t happen but mass business failures were always going to roll out of the system at some stage as all we were doing is buying time. I was talking to an insolvency practitioner in Manchester the other week who is busier than he’s been in the last 10 years dealing with orderly liquidations or wind downs, attempted business exits, and of course bankruptcies. The next 18 months is going to be fairly horrible. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Let's hope Putin's regime collapses soon & markets return to approximate normality 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Let's hope Putin's regime collapses soon & markets return to approximate normality Full marks for optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Do you know his troops are advancing to the east of Ukraine with some alacrity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Do you know his troops are advancing to the east of Ukraine with some alacrity? Looks like the US 'advisors' were right in their prognosis a few months ago. Will Putin's cronies turn against him I wonder? The Ukraine (read: USA) now has at least one working version of every type of Russians battlefield technology *and* many Russians techs have defected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Roxanne said: So did Willie, apparently. Homework on what? I have the fool on ignore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: Sadly, I think he has this all worked out.Starving. Africa (when the grain stops moivng) and starving Europe of full.He's currently spending millions on weapons from Korea. He's no where near done yet. I don't agree - he was expecting a rapid victory. He did not plan for the very poor quality of his officer corps. he has to get this ammunition to Russia, meanwhile the US is arming the Ukraine with some excellent battlefield weapons that Putin could only dream of. Don't underestimate the amount of intelligence the US has from their surveillance satellites and comms systems. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: I don't agree - he was expecting a rapid victory. He did not plan for the very poor quality of his officer corps. he has to get this ammunition to Russia, meanwhile the US is arming the Ukraine with some excellent battlefield weapons that Putin could only dream of. Don't underestimate the amount of intelligence the US has from their surveillance satellites and comms systems. Putin is apparently down to Soviet era kit in a lot of cases as they’re running out of microchips to power the new stuff they have. Meanwhile Ukraine is using top flight modern and smart US and UK hardware. You hope some sort of end game is happening. Putin also can’t hide the 75,000 or so deaths now either. A huge number of families must have seen their family members literally disappear into the ether. The penny must be dropping that far from a glorious death liberating a country your son was shipped off in badly equipped battalions to kill women and children and far from an honorable death or burial in some foreign field probably ended up being swept out of a mobile crematorium with a broom and left in a pile on the pavement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Asthehills said: Try any pub that didn’t serve food And, how many of them went out of business because of Covid? None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cambon said: And, how many of them went out of business because of Covid? None. That’s not what you asked? You said to name some the “hadn’t done well out of COVID” I am not sure not going bust as a result of something counts as doing well out of it does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I seem to be sad today, Chocolate, immediately... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Sorry to hear that, I hope tomorrow brings a bit more joy.🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Putin is apparently down to Soviet era kit in a lot of cases as they’re running out of microchips to power the new stuff they have. Meanwhile Ukraine is using top flight modern and smart US and UK hardware. You hope some sort of end game is happening. Putin also can’t hide the 75,000 or so deaths now either. A huge number of families must have seen their family members literally disappear into the ether. The penny must be dropping that far from a glorious death liberating a country your son was shipped off in badly equipped battalions to kill women and children and far from an honorable death or burial in some foreign field probably ended up being swept out of a mobile crematorium with a broom and left in a pile on the pavement. Yes this. And estimated losses in Afghan over 10 years were 15 thousand . Reality is there will be at best murmuring but likely much worse from the Russian population. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 It's about 50,000 Russian military deaths - Putin will maybe end up with the bits of Donetsk and Luhansk they had in early February but will likely lose Crimea It'd be astonishing if the people of Russia find this acceptable & are willing to carry on as before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: It's about 50,000 Russian military deaths - Putin will maybe end up with the bits of Donetsk and Luhansk they had in early February but will likely lose Crimea It'd be astonishing if the people of Russia find this acceptable & are willing to carry on as before I think , not that we will ever know, its more than that and they reckon in any conflict 3 times this get wounded . That could account for upwards of 200,000 casualties which if true no country or military can survive that in such a short time. And with winter looming too which will make it far harder for Russia. Ukrainans are fighting for there beliefs and their country. Only one winner in my eyes ! Edited September 11, 2022 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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