alpha-acid Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, finlo said: I thought I'd maybe caught Alzheimer's! You have read your post again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, John Wright said: Ha, ha. Pubs really only started after the Beer Houses Act 1830. Ale houses were just front rooms in otherwise private houses before that. Of course pubs and what they sell and what entertainment they provide and the facilities have changed in 190 years. You are wrong English literature more or less began in a pub, when Geoffrey Chaucer had the Pilgrims of “The Canterbury Tales” meet in the Tabard https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/08/opinions/british-pub-culture-economic-crisis-uk-brown/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3T5FI1ZStREb8aihLj_mv7TByeJvOOQD6au2E2rl_IZw2A9NGMUbQq6qE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Asthehills said: I love the pub for a laugh after the watershed. Not this place though. If it was a pub it would be called “The pedant’s corner”* *awaits someone to come along and correct the grammar or something. Came last in the Pub Quiz again, did we? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Wavey Davey said: Not even a lease. A friend of mine looked at it. It is an attempt to sell an ingoing that the sellers believe that they have built up in 'their' operation of the building 'their' operation of the site. That may not be what the new tenants will rely on, why should they pay the ingoing? It could be an ideal start up place for an finishing/refinishing business as long as the buildings are sound!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Let's hope our M and S isn't one of the ones being considered for closure. (various newspapers today) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kopek said: It is an attempt to sell an ingoing that the sellers believe that they have built up in 'their' operation of the building 'their' operation of the site. That may not be what the new tenants will rely on, why should they pay the ingoing? It could be an ideal start up place for an finishing/refinishing business as long as the buildings are sound!!! What is an 'ingoing' and what is a 'finishing or 'refinishing' business? Edited October 13, 2022 by Gladys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Kopek said: It is an attempt to sell an ingoing that the sellers believe that they have built up in 'their' operation of the building 'their' operation of the site. That may not be what the new tenants will rely on, why should they pay the ingoing? Do you ever read anything on this forum before you comment? I said my understanding is that they are being kicked out of the building. There isn’t any option to be a new tenant. You’d have to find somewhere else to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Apple said: Let's hope our M and S isn't one of the ones being considered for closure. (various newspapers today) I would be very surprised always seems busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: I would be very surprised always seems busy. Apparently it’s one of the most profitable branches in the UK so very unlikely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Surely that would be since the start of the 20th century in modern parlance. I'm not sure you can date the public house only back to the 1830s either. If only because the 1830 Beer Act led to an increase in front-room serveries (a sort of revival of the alehouse) rather than the opposite. This article from a publican's newspaper (which itself was founded in the 18th century) gives an interesting account, but I'm not really sure that you can assign the start of the modern pub to a particular characteristic, whether it be the counter-top or the patio heater. 9 hours ago, alpha-acid said: You are wrong English literature more or less began in a pub, when Geoffrey Chaucer had the Pilgrims of “The Canterbury Tales” meet in the Tabard https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/08/opinions/british-pub-culture-economic-crisis-uk-brown/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3T5FI1ZStREb8aihLj_mv7TByeJvOOQD6au2E2rl_IZw2A9NGMUbQq6qE Tabard was Tavern or coaching inn. Monastic establishment offering accommodation ( with refreshments ) to members of monastic orders and pilgrims. Located where it was because Southwark was outside the restrictions imposed by the City of London. The 1830 Act laid the foundations. Nearly 50,000 new locations selling beer registered in a decade. Add to that industrialisation, urbanisation, huge non rural population growth, mechanisation of brewing, improved transport allowing deliveries from large scale brewing. The pub as we know it is a Victorian development. Yes, it had forerunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Apple said: Let's hope our M and S isn't one of the ones being considered for closure. (various newspapers today) Douglas branch is and has been a good performing store. Most of M&S stores closing are underperforming, due to other M&S stores being nearby. What’s not been mentioned that whilst some stores are closing, a M&S Food Store is opening up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Apple said: Let's hope our M and S isn't one of the ones being considered for closure. (various newspapers today) Its an acceleration of part of 147 announced quite some time ( 3 years ) ago. here is the list of confirmed locations. Andover Basildon Birkenhead Bournemouth Bridlington Clacton Covent Garden Crewe [Relocation] Darlington Dover Durham Edgware Broadwalk Falkirk Falmouth Fareham Fforestfach Greenock [Relocation] Keighley Kettering Kirkcaldy New Mersey Speke [Will change to a food-only store] Newmarket Newry [Relocation] Northampton Portsmouth Putney Redditch Slough St Helens [Relocation] Stafford [Relocation] Stockport Stockton Walsall Warrington Wokingham [Relocation] And these are the 13 clothing stores that closed between April 1 2019 and May 22 2019: Ashford Bedford Boston Buxton Cwmbran Deal Felixstowe Huddersfield Hull Luton Arndale Newark Rotherham Weston Super Mare Which M&S food stores are closing? M&S announced in 2019 that 25 food stores will close or relocate by April 2024. The retailer said it is focusing on shutting or relocating its smaller, low-volume stores. It will, however, be opening 75 new larger food stores M&S closed the following food stores between July 2018 and early 2019 - it said these were separate from its restructuring programme: Bayswater Holloway Road Which M&S outlet stores are closing? The following outlet stores were also shut in 2018 and 2019 but M&S said last year that these weren't part of the restructuring programme and added that it didn't have any plans to get rid of any other outlet shops: Fleetwood Outlet Newton Abbot Outlet Junction One Antrim Outlet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Yeah hopefully Douglas will be OK. A few years ago it was rumoured to be one of the most profitable M&S stores in the British Isles. The closures have been announced for their UK stores anyway and the IOM store isn't in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, 2112 said: Douglas branch is and has been a good performing store. Most of M&S stores closing are underperforming, due to other M&S stores being nearby. What’s not been mentioned that whilst some stores are closing, a M&S Food Store is opening up. But don't forget its accountants who make the decisions , the extra logistical costs of operating marks and Spencer on the isle of man must be massive , they spend millions with the Steam packet , have refrigerated storage on the isle of man no doubt they are a first class employer ,and their products are excellent , but the additional (Isle of Man factored )cost to the business must be massive ,and another reason the government must make them feel welcome and valued in our community which without doubt they are , the loss of M and S from Douglas would be a disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Omobono said: But don't forget its accountants who make the decisions , the extra logistical costs of operating marks and Spencer on the isle of man must be massive , they spend millions with the Steam packet , have refrigerated storage on the isle of man no doubt they are a first class employer ,and their products are excellent , but the additional (Isle of Man factored )cost to the business must be massive ,and another reason the government must make them feel welcome and valued in our community which without doubt they are , the loss of M and S from Douglas would be a disaster Do they have storage away from the main store? I've sometimes seen their lorries at random places around the island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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