Firm closing

[hissingsid]

I found the Creamery delivery invaluable during lockdown and on other occasions when I have been housebound.    Have you tried the bread Banker ?

[Banker]

6 minutes ago, hissingsid said:

I found the Creamery delivery invaluable during lockdown and on other occasions when I have been housebound.    Have you tried the bread Banker ?

We’ve had the Noas bagels delivered regularly 😀

[Passing Time]

3 hours ago, WTF said:

 veggies at a farmers market ,  by the time the squatting insect and creature colonies of various types and soil had been removed what was left looked rather shit.

You're obviously shopping somewhere other than the Island then. Produce from the farmers markets here generally tend to be very good. We use a lot in our place

[Happier diner]

35 minutes ago, Banker said:

We’ve had the Noas bagels delivered regularly 😀

The Noa Bagels are fantastic. They might be expensive but they are so heavy that one will keep you full for a week.

[The Phantom]

Just wait till the summer comes and there is no grain coming from Ukraine or Russia. 

I think having local producers and a mill would then pay dividends.  We just need someone to bake it.

Noa and Ross Bakery clearly proving there is demand and commercially viable.  Although no idea if they use local grain and they are producing 'premium' products.  Noa probably bumps up their turnover significantly with the cafe and deliveries. 

Makes you wonder how Ramsey Bakery screwed up.  Everywhere is going to have to put their prices up for everything in the near future.  I've spoken to a few business owners over the last couple of years who were starting to struggle and loathe to put their prices up and thought they would lose clients.   They eventually did and didn't lose any clients.  This was however prior to the recent inflation and energy hikes. 

[Omobono]

17 hours ago, Manx Resident said:

Perhaps, more seriously, your could direct your question to the Cabinet Office and ask if there are any contingency plans for key risks to IOM?. Perhaps there are none which is why everything is such a surprise?. 

Stu you are correct there is a whole food division at the headquarters in St Johns , you never see any of them out anywhere  but they are good at bragging about their success ,but most of the business's are really cottage  or artisan industries ,since the lockdown  it would appear that this group  have disapeared  or claim to be working at home  you would have thought this was the very time these incubator businesses  and  essentials such as Ramey bakery  received regular calls or visits , to make sure things were OK or to offer advice regarding possible support , 

but No it seems our civil service are  above that , and is this not the same couldn't care less culture that has infiltrated most government departments and agencies .

[NoTailT]

9 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Stu you are correct there is a whole food division at the headquarters in St Johns , you never see any of them out anywhere  but they are good at bragging about their success ,but most of the business's are really cottage  or artisan industries ,since the lockdown  it would appear that this group  have disapeared  or claim to be working at home  you would have thought this was the very time these incubator businesses  and  essentials such as Ramey bakery  received regular calls or visits , to make sure things were OK or to offer advice regarding possible support , 

but No it seems our civil service are  above that , and is this not the same couldn't care less culture that has infiltrated most government departments and agencies .

Problem is that incompetents like Stu and most of his colleagues interpret this as 'big government' and 'government interference'.

To me it's just good practice to ensure your key producers are stable.

[Omobono]

8 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

Does he have any opinions yet on the Liverpool Terminal that he signed us up to?

if Gawne is on the payroll of Manx radio then its not for him to be  putting forth his own opinions  , conduct interviews with various factions , maintain a balance  by all means   he has enough skeletons in his closet and examples where he  cost the taxpayer  much money from his  past   clangers     and I am afraid working for quasi government  outfit like Manx radio he has to remain impartial ,and got get sucked into ,

[Happier diner]

22 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Stu you are correct there is a whole food division at the headquarters in St Johns , you never see any of them out anywhere  but they are good at bragging about their success ,but most of the business's are really cottage  or artisan industries ,since the lockdown  it would appear that this group  have disapeared  or claim to be working at home  you would have thought this was the very time these incubator businesses  and  essentials such as Ramey bakery  received regular calls or visits , to make sure things were OK or to offer advice regarding possible support , 

but No it seems our civil service are  above that , and is this not the same couldn't care less culture that has infiltrated most government departments and agencies .

Do you have evidence to support your very biaised view? 

[Happier diner]

51 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Just wait till the summer comes and there is no grain coming from Ukraine or Russia. 

I think having local producers and a mill would then pay dividends.  We just need someone to bake it.

Noa and Ross Bakery clearly proving there is demand and commercially viable.  Although no idea if they use local grain and they are producing 'premium' products.  Noa probably bumps up their turnover significantly with the cafe and deliveries. 

Makes you wonder how Ramsey Bakery screwed up.  Everywhere is going to have to put their prices up for everything in the near future.  I've spoken to a few business owners over the last couple of years who were starting to struggle and loathe to put their prices up and thought they would lose clients.   They eventually did and didn't lose any clients.  This was however prior to the recent inflation and energy hikes. 

It's a sound idea, but Noa and Ross are tiny by comparison. They could not take up the slack without serious expansion. Maybe one of them could take on the bakery.

[Gladys]

7 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

Problem is that incompetents like Stu and most of his colleagues interpret this as 'big government' and 'government interference'.

To me it's just good practice to ensure your key producers are stable.

What if RB did not want to co-operate and give honest answers, perhaps they decided some time ago to close?  There have been hints that the next generation weren't keen to carry on. So perhaps closure was a plan for some time and they didn't want to "have the conversation" with govt in case they were put under pressure not to do as they planned.

I am just not convinced that govt have slipped up here; a conversation consists of at least two parties.  

If the boat doesn't sail, I doubt there will be famine.  There may be inconvenience, but hardly a national crisis. 

 

 

 

[Happier diner]

Just now, Gladys said:

What if RB did not want to co-operate and give honest answers, perhaps they decided some time ago to close?  There have been hints that the next generation weren't keen to carry on. So perhaps closure was a plan for some time and they didn't want to "have the conversation" with govt in case they were put under pressure not to do as they planned.

I am just not convinced that govt have slipped up here; a conversation consists of at least two parties.  

If the boat doesn't sail, I doubt there will be famine.  There may be inconvenience, but hardly a national crisis. 

 

 

 

That's possible. Similar to what happened at Rae Motors. 

[SleepyJoe]

Sounds like the Bakery equipment is oil fueled & perhaps well on the way to obsolescence

If the bakery is to be kept going then it - like many other island enterprises - will need government investment to tide it through to becoming an independent operation

Why shouldn't this be attempted to keep Laxey Glen Mills going & many, many jobs saved?

[GD4ELI]

1 minute ago, SleepyJoe said:

Sounds like the Bakery equipment is oil fueled & perhaps well on the way to obsolescence

If the bakery is to be kept going then it - like many other island enterprises - will need government investment to tide it through to becoming an independent operation

Why shouldn't this be attempted to keep Laxey Glen Mills going & many, many jobs saved?

'Cos it's unfair to other bakeries?

[Happier diner]

2 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

Sounds like the Bakery equipment is oil fueled & perhaps well on the way to obsolescence

If the bakery is to be kept going then it - like many other island enterprises - will need government investment to tide it through to becoming an independent operation

Why shouldn't this be attempted to keep Laxey Glen Mills going & many, many jobs saved?

Oil is still the cheapest fuel though.