Roxanne Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I wonder if the successful applicant managed to spell Kirk Michael properly in their tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 The guy is right what is the point of having a loading to recognize the benefit to the local economy in the tender if you then totally ignore it and award contracts to companies that basically add nothing to the local economy at all. You have to ask we’re any backhanders dished out here for 3 local companies to lose out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, BriT said: The guy is right what is the point of having a loading to recognize the benefit to the local economy in the tender if you then totally ignore it and award contracts to companies that basically add nothing to the local economy at all. You have to ask we’re any backhanders dished out here for 3 local companies to lose out? They didn’t ignore it. They gave it the relevant weighting in the tender process. If the local firm is super expensive a weighting won’t bring it back in their favour. Anyway. This was all discussed three days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, Gizo said: ^ doesn’t read threads #firstwiththenews #hotoffthepress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, Ativa said: .Anyway. This was all discussed three days ago What a sad troll you are 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, BriT said: What a sad troll you are 😂 Well, your post shows a complete lack of understanding of the government tender process, and the same conversation was had on Thursday. Not sure how pointing that out is trolling, but I will head back under the imaginary bridge anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Amadeus said: I do find it odd that someone would announce a business closure using a sponsored facebook post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, Ativa said: If the local firm is super expensive a weighting won’t bring it back in their favour. The thing is, avoiding the rights and wrongs argument - why and what factors would make the local firm super expensive? In fact, so expensive that it wasn't competitive in the view of it's own Govt, with off-Island tenders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, HiVibes said: I do find it odd that someone would announce a business closure using a sponsored facebook post. It's an ad created by using a post on the Facebook business page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: The thing is, avoiding the rights and wrongs argument - why and what factors would make the local firm super expensive? In fact, so expensive that it wasn't competitive in the view of it's own Govt, with off-Island tenders? Greedy pricing could be one. An assumption that just because you are a local firm in a fairly specialist field you can charge what you want without fear of it going off Island because government need to be seen to the shopping local. Thats why it’s a weighting, and not an over ruling factor. To stop local firms taking the piss Edited April 16, 2023 by Ativa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, HiVibes said: I do find it odd that someone would announce a business closure using a sponsored facebook post. He is a professional attention seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ativa said: Greedy pricing could be one. An assumption that just because you are a local firm in a fairly specialist field you can charge what you want without fear of it going off Island because government need to be seen to the shopping local. Thats why it’s a weighting, and not an over ruling factor. To stop local firms taking the piss In your opinion which local firms are "taking the piss"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ativa said: Greedy pricing could be one. An assumption that just because you are a local firm in a fairly specialist field you can charge what you want without fear of it going off Island because government need to be seen to the shopping local. Thats why it’s a weighting, and not an over ruling factor. To stop local firms taking the piss I don't know how long this particular business has been in existence but it would be interesting to know and what previous business it has tendered for and won or lost. Surely it would have a feel for being competitive in its own marketplace? What I'm getting at here is, does that "local firm" face costs and expenses that a UK (larger?) concern doesn't or is better able to absorb or spread? If we consider that UK concern having to factor in any travel and accommodation costs as well which could be considerable then there must be an explanation for the local concern still not being competitive. I'm not discounting "greedy pricing" but I'm wondering if there are other, as yet unknown, factors to be taken into account here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, snowman said: It's an ad created by using a post on the Facebook business page Bit pointless though. The last thing I would do after losing a tender, and we've lost plenty over the years, is to let the bastards know I care. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ativa Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Twitch said: In your opinion which local firms are "taking the piss"? They can’t anymore, due to the competitive tender process that offers a weighting to take into account their additional expenses and benefit to the local economy, but stops them taking the piss. This guy has been through the process and lost, and is now bleating because he is a local business. Unlucky. Put a more attractive offer to them in the future. The process is open and is used day in and day out for government procurement on projects much bigger than this one. He is the only person I have seen moaning lately because he (and a few on here and FB) seems to think being local should dump everything else. If it did then people would take the piss which is exactly what happened years ago. I have seen firms win government work in the past at 40 percent plus of what they would charge anyone else just because they were local and had the skills. That is what this process is trying to stop. We have won and lost work through this scheme. In my experience there is normally meaningful feedback available if you miss out. You have two options. Take the feedback and act on it next time, or throw your toys out of the pram because someone else pitched a better proposal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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