Non-Believer Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Annoymouse said: It would make a good spot for a pub. Problem being that there's hardly enough pub trade left in Ramsey to justify the ones that are still open, that's why there's three Brewery pubs closed and rotting. If a new pub opened there it would be busy through novelty value for a while, unless there was a special effort to retain that it would lose that and become just another under-used amenity struggling to make ends meet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Problem being that there's hardly enough pub trade left in Ramsey to justify the ones that are still open, that's why there's three Brewery pubs closed and rotting. If a new pub opened there it would be busy through novelty value for a while, unless there was a special effort to retain that it would lose that and become just another under-used amenity struggling to make ends meet? The only reason why 3 brewery pubs are rotting away is because of the brewery themselves, if there wasn’t covenants on the buildings they’d have been bought up a long time ago and would be more popular than ever. I don’t think the site is at its most valuable as a pub so it will never happen, but a proper family pub/restaurant that isn’t brewery owned would do really well IMO. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 8:13 AM, Non-Believer said: Personally, I just don't get it how nobody from RTC sees stuff, they're taking enough in Rates. The authority's obviously not responsible for everything that makes Ramsey look tired (such as the road surfaces and worn out road markings and kerb painting) but they could be looking after what they are or have taken on responsibility for. Albert Terrace and Queens Pier Road walls (see pic) where the weeds are abundant are RTC properties and haven't been washed down or painted for years. The owners of some of the demolition sites could be told to get the places tidied up, Albert Rd School site for instance. The eyes of the visiting public are going to be on these places, what sort of impression do they get? Remarkably...this vegetation and its medium seems to have been addressed already 😲 well done RTC, if responsible. Just need to carry it on up the road to the Coronation Park now 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 hours ago, Annoymouse said: The only reason why 3 brewery pubs are rotting away is because of the brewery themselves, if there wasn’t covenants on the buildings they’d have been bought up a long time ago and would be more popular than ever. I don’t think the site is at its most valuable as a pub so it will never happen, but a proper family pub/restaurant that isn’t brewery owned would do really well IMO. Brewery pubs just need to be demoed. Clear the site and let someone build something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Brewery pubs just need to be demoed. Clear the site and let someone build something new. Well they shouldn’t be allowed to put covenants on them, the alcohol licence application already has measures to stop unfair competition, the covenant is no more than taking their ball away and saying if they can’t play there, then no one can. They don’t seem to understand that people don’t want to be in their pubs, drinking their beer because a lot of people don’t support their business model and so vote with their feet. Infact going one step further they should be forced to maintain the building inside and out, they’ll rinse 30k on a refurb that nobody wants but leave another pub with an uninhabitable living accommodation with damp/mould from leaky roofs etc, it doesn’t make any sense. If the brewery ever find themselves in financial difficulties I hope to god the Government never bail them out, I can’t see it ever happening for as long as they have Spar shops keeping them afloat. Ramsey bakery tried to wipe out all the independent bakeries and look what happened, the likes of H&B shouldn’t be allowed to try and do the same with pubs/restaurants. Edited April 25, 2022 by Annoymouse 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Annoymouse said: Infact going one step further they should be forced to maintain the building inside and out A number of their older pubs are registered buildings, they should be doing this anyway, the obligation already exists. It just doesn't seem to be enforced for some reason.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Harding's Butchers is the latest company to fall to the cost of living Emergency. A very sad loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Harding's Butchers is the latest company to fall to the cost of living Emergency. A very sad loss. Really good butchers as well that I have used for a while, sad to hear this news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 How much longer is this government going to sit idly by whilst business after business closes. I had slightly higher hopes than usual at the last election. How wrong was I... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Passing Time said: How much longer is this government going to sit idly by whilst business after business closes. I had slightly higher hopes than usual at the last election. How wrong was I... What do you want them to do? Whatever money is used will have to be made from taxes which will have to rise, see the list of those companies who have had massive support already, posted under Iom Covid restrictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 2:42 PM, Annoymouse said: It would make a good spot for a pub. Spoons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Banker said: What do you want them to do? Whatever money is used will have to be made from taxes which will have to rise, see the list of those companies who have had massive support already, posted under Iom Covid restrictions Drop the VAT rate for hospitality to 5% that way the businesses get to keep more of what they earn. It's been the perfect storm so far with price rises, not much the government can do about that. They can and should look at VAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Drop the VAT rate for hospitality to 5% that way the businesses get to keep more of what they earn. It's been the perfect storm so far with price rises, not much the government can do about that. They can and should look at VAT Except most of what a butcher ( or Ramsey Bakery ) supplies will be zero rated. And if VAT is reduced that should be passed on to consumers, not kept by retailers or the service industries. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, John Wright said: Except most of what a butcher ( or Ramsey Bakery ) supplies will be zero rated. And if VAT is reduced that should be passed on to consumers, not kept by retailers or the service industries. I don't think the IOM can alter its VAT rates anyway unless the UK does, due to the shared purse arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I'm not sure a Butchers could be so affected by the 'Cost of Living' crisis that it has to close? Could be the level of business was not sustainable??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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